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skilledtothegills to TechnologyEnglish ·
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The shady world of Brave selling copyrighted data for AI training

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I'm fairly certain that I was not the only person in the world who thought to himself, "Did they just yoink the entire Internet and bundle it together
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      Ironically, Brave tried to be Firefox based in their early days but they ultimately decided Chromium would meet their needs better so they switched over.

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          They go into detail on their blog: https://brave.com/the-road-to-brave-one-dot-zero/

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              Hoping manifest v3 ends up being enough of a problem for adblockers that it pushes them to consider moving to firefox.

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          its referring to their search engine’s ai summarizer feature, i found an article when searching op’s title, quite a low effort post really since only an image was shared and no link to any article… or any description whatsoever.

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        Ferdium Are you saying Ferdium runs sites in isolated containers so it won’t recognize when I’m logged into another app via cookies?

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            Firefox can do this too so it should work with librewolf too, no?

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      I use and heavily recommend Waterfox. Less bullshit, more privacy.

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        Than librewolf? how exactly?

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      I heard chromium is easier to work with than gecko.

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        I heard the same - over a decade ago.

        Not disagreeing with you, although that information might be outdated. But the fact that you don’t see, e.g. , applications that use gecko to embed web content, speaks volumes. I get the feeling that their codebase is very monolithic.

        I would really like to hear from a current or former contributor though.

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          https://web.archive.org/web/20191006213746/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Gecko/Embedding_Mozilla/FAQ/Embedding_Gecko

          It seems they cancelled support for embedding gecko.

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            As a previously paying, licensed Opera user I believe it was one of the reasons they went with chromium. Even Vivaldi (which is the true Opera) uses chromium. Giving up PWA support is another mistake.

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          I believe libxul is their approach to having gecko as a separate library for others to use.

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          On the chromium side, there is the Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) which is used absolutely everywhere. Not sure about gecko situation though, but at least their JavaScript engine, SpiderMonkey, also has quite widespread use. I don’t think I’ve seen projects not related with Mozilla/Firefox that use gecko though, but perhaps it’s because I never look hard enough. It’s usually either WebKit or CEF.

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      If someone can explain to me why librewolf refuses to display the specialized font characters that most websites use for necessary navigation symbols, I’ll go back to using it. But all of my research suggests it was a problem only I was having, and it genuinely made some websites unusable.

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