Hello m@teys,

I’ve been waiting for this a long time (half a year), personally. After seeing the surge in piefed instances, i.e. blahaj, .ca, .zip, quokk.au, and .world creating their own instances, and clients guaranteeing future piefed support, we’ve been thinking about potentially opening an instance in the future. Not a guarantee, just an idea. This isn’t a voting thread, just a discussion. Later on we’ll actually vote on this.

Do note that this thread will not guarantee an instance; we are discussing a hypothetical. Suggestions? Ideas? Criticisms? make your voice heard.

Have a good week!

pie picture comes from here

governance type: sense check

  • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    19·
    1 month ago

    A comment I came across a while ago puts it quite well:

    I haven’t used piefed myself but I wouldn’t want to switch to it because I feel like it gives more power to downvotes and karma (or “reputation” as they call it):

    • Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
    • People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
    • Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.

    Those are three of the twelve points listed as differences to lemmy on their features page.

    I also don’t agree with some of the points in their article on “PieFed features for growing healthy communities”.

    from: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/17119490
    the comments’ thread is also quite interesting

    Plus it’s written in Python and has only 1,6k MAUs, so we can only guess how well it scales

    Slightly edited from an older comment of mine:

    EDIT: as such I believe that operating a Piefed instance would be a waste resources and actually harmful considering the fragmentation it would cause for little to no benefit at all (also it seems much better set up for a new Reddit with all the .world’ers flooding over there and the anti-features)

    • 𝔽𝕩𝕠𝕞𝕥@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
      12·
      1 month ago

      I think rimu has made the karma system to be optional (i.e. in the admin settings, not hardcoded) so we’d just disable it anyway. I think the second feature should only apply to mods/admins, since its a very useful tool. #1 #3 i agree, they are not good.

      I’ll address each point in the Piefed Features for growing healthy communities:

      Find people who have low karma

      This applies to admins, and while not really that effective, its okay to have.

      Find people who downvote too much

      This is a very useful tool, since this is a big problem on lemmy. Same thing; only for admins

      Spot spam easily

      Sounds like a good idea; but with feature #3 as you pointed out, this might cause some new-user shitposters to get falsely flagged, but we would disable it anyway.

      Don’t award karma in low-quality communities

      This is now opt-in, and we would disable it.

      https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/5-admins/topic/Low.20reputation.20communities/near/1872

      Warnings on unusual communities

      We would add nothing to communities, anyway; users are free to do whatever they want, themselves. (maybe to our own instance communities like /0 and governance? But not much honestly.

      Icons next to comments by low karma accounts

      As i said before, probably should only be seen by admins/mods.

      Icon for new accounts

      No problem here; most clients do this anyway.

      Automatically delete content based on phrases in user name

      Sounds very useful, and which is why piefed didn’t struggle at all with nicole.

      Report accounts, not just posts

      Good idea.

      Instance-wide domain block

      We have this on lemmy too

      Automatic reporting of 4chan content

      Not a good idea imo. We’d disable it.

      Plus it’s written in Python and has only 1,6k MAUs, so we can only guess how well it scales

      We’ll always have this lemmy instance anyway :) but afaik it scales fine, and has some optimizations coming along soon.