• Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    This is a bullshit without context.

    Cutting off trade with Spain would mean cutting off trade with the whole EU.

    So this is embarrassing non-news.

    Only thing I saw in a German headline article at all about this topic was a comment about how Merz did not tell Trump that fact (again…🙄) directly at the mentioned meeting.

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    منذ 13 ساعة

    I only respect Spain more for having standards.

  • AlexLost
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    منذ 9 ساعات

    Good. This needs to happen more. Have them come back to the table begging for the resources they need and don’t/can’t produce. It would be so lovely. Have the day you voted for!

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    Good job on the Republican Party for being complicit in our current president continuing to absolutely wreck the global image of the U.S. on top of everything else.

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      Yeah it’s the voters you need to blame here.

      They or their lack of participation put them there.

      They can get them out too, now, if they want.

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        “Blame the lambs being led to the slaughter, not the shepherds who gave them no choice.”

        You’re a truly enlightened genius who is contributing greatly to the cause.

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          Every. Single. Time.

          It’s on the voters. Stop whining through another piece of philosophy.

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            “Don’t complain about your leaders. It’s your fault.” Is not the convincing argument you think it is.

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              The leaders the voters repeatedly put there

              It’s a lot better than blaming everything outside the genuine reason. Probably the reason it isn’t convincing to Americans is because they can’t take responsibility for it.

              Obviously it makes a difference; the Republican voters use it well enough. The people they elected are trying to stop potential Democrat voters from doing it.

              Just take some fucking responsibility.

  • bstix@feddit.dk
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    Main exports:

    USA to Spain: Petroleum
    Spain to USA: Refined Petroleum

    Now, I’m sure this is bad business for both parts, but it’s a helluva lot worse practically for USA to be without refined petroleum than it is for Spain not to have petroleum to refine.

    Anyway, I’ll make sure to eat double the amount of Spanish tomatoes this week.

  • OhStopYellingAtMe
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    The US company I work for is a massive multinational manufacturing corporation with factories all over the world, including Spain. What the fuck are supposed to do, cut ties with our own facilities, because the orange pig is throwing a tantrum?

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      Trade will continue on as normal. He can’t actually unilaterally stop trade by decree but the fucking news media will never tell you that.

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    The shame I have for my country is only matched by my admiration for Spain and any other country that tells President Pedo to eat shit.

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      “¡Come mierda, pinche guero cagaleche!”

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      They aren’t even telling him to eat shit out of spite or dislike. Just being congruent in their foreign policy.

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        Did you mean consistent?

        Congruent:
        Similar to or in agreement with something, so that two things can both exist or be combined without issues.

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    The next President is going to have so much work to do repair country relations. This man thinks he is king of the world and can do whatever he wants.

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      The problem is that we know what’s to blame, so I’m not sure if the next president will alter the view now in many peoples eyes.

      The problem is the people. They aren’t willing to do their national duty when it’s required, including now. They’ve mouthed off for years about how they and their second amendment right stops this kind of shit happening and have always been quick to criticise other democracies about their policing, control and lack of freedom.

      Still, now, the only thing that can stop this, stop it all, are the citizens of the US. They won’t do it, though, and we’ll get a heap of excuses as to why.

      So no, the next president won’t make any difference to me, what will is what the American people, whose feet this squarely lies at, do about it. I don’t think I’m alone.

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      The sooner the US realizes there is no coming back from this, no matter who is elected in future - the better.

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        There is no coming back from this because US dollar dominance is waning. Internal American decay is either secondary to that, or a symptom of that, or both. That’s what’s really behind the scenes in all of this (that and Israel’s dreams of their own Zionazi Lebensraum, Eretz Israel).

        The US used to be able to exert soft power to control the world, which lends itself much more towards moral superiority and an air of legitimacy than “do what I say or I bomb you or kidnap your president”. BRICS, mostly-failed Russian sanctions, and the slow death of the petrodollar are changing that ability. That they’re so desperate to maintain dominance that they now resort to borderline-world-war levels of violence is not an indicator of their strength to the world, it’s the desperate death throes of the old world order.

        The important thing is that the US Empire (so Israel as well) is stopped before they can reach a fully automated army and/or police force, because that’s violence that obeys without compunction. If it reaches that point, it’s a whole different game.

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        Why? What does that even accomplish, the only move there is to make is to start grinding away to repair things

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          Cause in either 4 or 8 years the US will vote in another Trump, but younger and smarter. Trump might go someday but his bullshit, neoliberal, hypercapitalistic, super charged climate change, pro-billionaire, pro-corporation, anti-free trade ideas won’t

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            Yep, they’ve been voting this kind of lunatic in for years.

            You’re right, they’ll do it again or won’t care.

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      I suspect you’re significantly more screwed than just one next president.

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      More like the next five. All this damage is gonna take at least a generation to undo.

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    Hey Spain, please make a brand of Cava called “he is dead!”. I’ll buy a bottle and open it the day Trump dies. I’ll buy one for Putin as well, and maybe one for Orban too…

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    As an Spaniard, this is the bare minimum I expect from my government. Better yet would be to evict the US from the Rota and Morón bases.

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      Spain is jumping a sinking ship. Kudos for being first.

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    Oh well. Fuck the US. I’d literally take anything from Spain over anything from the USA any day.

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      As somebody in the US, same.

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    Spain has finally left behind its era of servility towards the US and is beginning to act with sovereignty and in accordance with international law. It is a pity that the political opposition in Spain is siding with the country that threatens Spain and not with the legitimate government of Spain. Patriotism means defending the interests of your country’s citizens, not the interests of the country that threatens yours.