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  • It wasn’t the Palestinians’ own country yet, it was first an Ottoman province and then a british Colony. Just like the partition of India in 47 didn’t give all of british India to Indians, Palestinians didn’t get all of the land they claimed. Plus the partition plan was plain stupid and bound to end in violence by “sharing” Jerusalem.

    But I get it, the difference here is that most Israelis were immigrants to the mandate and refugees from WW2 with a clear nationalist intent to have a jewish country for jewish people with jewish rule and jewish laws…by violence if necessary.

    Yeah, I guess one way to look at it is as colonizers or a “cruzader kingdom”, but in this case there is no original jewish country to return to in their own worldview…so that approach is just going to get you endless war against an embattled people.

    But to return to the main point I was making: none of this is equivalent to what russia did. The partition of the USSR was done peacefully, accepted by both sides and since 2007 russia decided they couldn’t let their neighbour live in peace, culminating in the 2014 and 2022 invasions.

    It’s as if Israel and Palestine had decided to coexist peacefully and then 30 years later one of them decided to take over and deny the other’s right to exist the other for no good reason. (plus one of them is the largest country in the world, even less reason to conquer anybody else)