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I don’t quite follow you here as several people have demonstrated in various ways that the Voynich manuscript text does not at all conform with random gibberish.
Yeah, you’re right, I wrote my language backwards. I just fixed it. “You could certainly disprove that it was a real natural language by showing statistical regularity in it that’s of a type that would only exist if it was statistical random gibberish” is what I meant.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catto Bad Taxidermy@mander.xyz•I'm the Lorax, I speak for the trees...1·10 hours agoThis is in completely the wrong community 😀
It’s a bug in Lemmy, every so often it just refuses to show images for no reason at all. Try shift-reload.
- Yeah, this is interesting. I’m a little skeptical of any analysis that proceeds immediately to statistical analysis of one particular assignment of “letters” with the implied boundaries to the letterforms, without apparently dealing with the nontrivial problem of figuring out how likely it is that any particular shape is a particular “letter” or where the boundaries are. But you could certainly disprove that it was a real natural language by showing statistical regularity in it that’s of a type that would only exist if it was statistical random gibberish (which many people have tried and failed to do).
- You need the http:// in front of your link, it’s being processed as a relative link compared with this document
- Why is Leisure Suit Larry at the top of this paper
Edit: I backwards
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cattomicro-blog-[ish]@lemmy.sdf.org•One would think that all the books that Google has scanned and OCR'd would give them some kind of edge in the LLM-AI department (maybe a virtual research assistant?)English1·14 hours agoSadly, I think that the volume of books available to scan from all the books of the world is pretty small compared with the galaxy of random typing that is available all over the internet at this point.
The most compelling hypothesis I saw for the language explanation was that it was Manchu with an unusual romanization. It’s such a rare language (basically dead language at this point) that it would make sense why the statistics line up for a real language, but people haven’t managed to decode it. Then add to that the fact that it’s not super clear what glyphs are stylistic differences and which ones are alternate glyphs, and it’s not even clear where to split the forms into different glyphs because they’re all connected, and it kind of makes sense.
This video is the most compelling case I’ve seen for it not being a real language. Like I say, it’s kind of sad to think it might not have a real decoding.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPMto World News@quokk.au•NATO countries agree to allocate 5% of GDP to defence1·14 hours agoThe UK in 1985 was being run by people who grew up getting their cities bombed out and not having enough to eat because of the war, or having friends and family members dead because they were in the infantry and didn’t come back.
I posted a chart elsewhere in these comments; all during the modern era it’s been hovering around 1.5%, and then suddenly in the last few years people are invested in paying more, what with the US and Russia collaborating to make them nervous about their safety again.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPMto World News@quokk.au•NATO countries agree to allocate 5% of GDP to defence1·14 hours agoPeople on every other instance are able to say whatever they want, they can have open discussion, they can criticize .ml or NATO or Trump or the Democrats. Which is as it should be.
The mythology that .ml enacts its insane level of censorship because it’s helping people “crack through the programming” by expressing viewpoints and arguments that are also allowed everywhere else, and the censorship is a necessary part of making that possible (by banning any disagreement shielding it from the commonsense arguments that generally can debunk it), is some Karl Rove shit.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPMto World News@quokk.au•NATO countries agree to allocate 5% of GDP to defence3·14 hours agoUntil the USA goes full dictatorship (admittedly less hypothetical than I’d like)
I have bad news for you.
I’m not trying to exaggerate the situation, but they’re imprisoning journalists, kicking random people out of the country or keeping them in conditions so bad that it sometimes kills them, they just bombed a random country ignoring the system that’s supposed to make that illegal without authorization, and so on and so on. They just assassinated a Democratic politician.
It’s all a spectrum. People are still in the streets without being shot, they’re still backing down or being forced to free some particular people. But the standard of “going to war without authorization” is a guard-rail that fell years ago, and more are falling every week now. If you’re waiting for the moment to fight back against the dictatorship, this is it.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPMto World News@quokk.au•NATO countries agree to allocate 5% of GDP to defence7·1 day agoIt’s been 2%. Historically a lot of NATO wasn’t meeting that, but in the last few years people have been taking it a lot more seriously.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPMto World News@quokk.au•NATO countries agree to allocate 5% of GDP to defence8·1 day ago5% is, in fact, a whole shitload.
The US is at about 3%, which is an insane amount a lot of which gets allocated to random domestic pork-barrel projects, or basic scientific research which is just getting funneled through the “defense” department for basically no reason. Upping it to more than the US spends per capita on its military is bonkers.
That being said, I get it. These are bonkers times. Russia is doing for-real military invasions and bombing whole cities and shows no signs of wanting to stop, and the US is no longer a reliable partner for defense and deterrence. It might be fine, but it might not. It’s time to get ready to look after our own safety again, after a long period of not really having to worry as long as you were white and Western. I get why they’re doing it.
Earlier statistical analysis had shown it had some definite similarities to a real human language, it’s not just gibberish or an amateur hoax. I have to say I’m a little bit sad that it seems like it’s turning out it was just sophisticated gibberish.
When you crosspost, it’s basically a link to the post in the “original” instance.
Yeah, don’t do that.
Why do you think this person is a bot?
Ideally, they’d crosspost instead of repost.
? This isn’t how it works. Any repost of the same link is a crosspost. What do you even mean by this?
Why do you think this person is a bot?
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catto News•Trump tells Axios after U.S. strike on Iran: "Israel is much safer now"9·2 days agoIt was always thus. Wars are incredibly profitable, the sides don’t really matter if your goal is to get rich off them.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPto Legal News@lemmy.zip•Disney Files Landmark Case Against AI Image Generator Midjourney2·2 days agoI mean he is right that Disney filed suit against Midjourney.
It’s like watching the two biggest meth head houses in the neighborhood get in a big war with each other. All you can do is cheer.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPMto World News@quokk.au•Putin was asked at a press conference why Moscow was not helping Tehran more and replied that 'almost two million Russian-speaking people live in Israel'62·2 days agoThey don’t actually like Israel. They like Iran, which is why their mouthpieces in the GOP were trying to get the US not to attack. But, like all bullies, when it’s time for them to stand up for their friends, they suddenly have this big explanation which no one needs to believe why it’s not a big deal and they were actually always good friends with the other guy.
Besides, what would they be able to send even if they wanted to or cared what happens to the people of Iran? A gift card? They’re fighting a country smaller than California and getting all fucked up, and they have nothing really to spare at this point anyway. Iran is the breadwinner in that relationship.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOPtoAMUSING, INTERESTING, OUTRAGEOUS, or PROFOUND•Congress, Now More Than Ever, Our Nation Needs Your CowardiceEnglish2·2 days agoTheir post-school shooting story, the same one they run every time, or their articles right after 9/11, should have won them several.
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Like I said, you will have precisely 0 problem in telling whatever narrative on Lemmy.world or wherever. You are spouting a comfortable myth which is commonly believed on .ml but has no basis in reality and is in fact 100% backwards.
I’ll prove it: Tell me the narrative, and I guarantee you we will be able to talk about it for any length of time without anyone coming in and doing any serious censorship.