I’d be curious to know what the proper context is for Kling saying that using gender neutral language in the documentation of a project he was maintaining is something he’s opposed to because it’s “ideologically motivated.”

White males are actively discriminated against in tech.

It’s an open secret of Silicon Valley.

One of the last meetings I attended before leaving Apple (in 2017) was management asking us to “keep the corporate diversity targets in mind” when interviewing potential new hires.

The phrasing was careful, but the implication was pretty clear.

I knew in my heart this wasn’t wholesome, but I was too scared to rock the boat at the time.

That’s Kling replying to @danheld, who “is ultimately responding to @shaunmmaguire’s tweet lying about being told he wouldn’t be promoted at Google for being white.”

What’s the proper context for that?

What’s the proper context for Kling calling someone getting dragged for boosting noted far-right conspiracy nut Bryan Lunduke “persecution” for “banal, mainstream positions”?

I mean, sure, being alt-right isn’t very alt nowadays so I guess it’s mainstream, I’ll grant you that.

Quotes and links from this blog post

Legit question.

I think we all know it isn’t

Americans not understanding other countries exist, an exhibit:

why don’t you tell us how you really feel

Turns out you can’t train stupid people to do stupid things

data can’t leave the EU without explicit consent

This is already more or less the norm for many services, because of the GDPR and the ePrivacy directive, especially if you’re handling special personal data categories, and/or the service is for a government entity. There’s some caveats to this, but on a general level that’s already how things are.

But as was pointed out, the problem isn’t getting folks to host things in the EU since it’s not like only European companies have data centers in the EU, but to use European cloud providers. Vendor lock-in is a real issue, however; no European provider can give you what AWS or GCP can, and migrating to something else might require a lot of work depending on which services you’ve been using.

The fact that so many people listen to these cunts is disheartening

Oh no maybe only 10x the population of Finland, this completely wrecks my argument.

Do you honestly seriously think that the ratio of bots to people on Reddit is so high that you’re more likely to see bot-generated (and not by just any bots but ones masquerading as humans) content than not?

I used to be a huge user of all the drama subs but they started getting formulaic

Which only tells us anything about drama subs.

Edit: Reddit has, what, >100k active subs and ~500 million active monthly users. Even if half of them were literal bots that’d leave you with ~250 million monthly meatbags using the site.

50–100 times the population of eg. Finland—“everybody on reddit is the same and they’re like chatbots, amirite?”

Revenge of the Edit: and before any of y’all get any bright ideas, I use em & en dashes because I’m a ginormous nerd who also uses interrobangs (“uses what‽”), fite me

outgroup bad, applause please

So mind telling us mere mortals what your point is, then?

Just asking why anyone would want to publicly host the repo for a closed source project isn’t a point – it’s just you not understanding the reasons for doing that, and just because you personally don’t understand something doesn’t mean there’s no valid reason to do it.

But I used the word “neckbeard”, therefore my argument is invalid

I didn’t complain about downvotes, you just made that up for upvotes, and again: this is a random forum and not a professional setting, your fucking “gotcha aha you’re just as bad as us!” is pointless and doesn’t mean I was wrong about what I said.

All the neckbeard Linus stans telling me people need thicker skin just proved my point for me.

“Not like that!”

Turns out Linus stans are also assholes – who would have guessed?

Yes, good job, me shooting my mouth off at Linus stans is exactly the same as Linus publicly humiliating people in what is essentially a professional setting, and therefore me calling people neckbeards invalidates everything I said.

I swear it’s like nothing has changed about Linux users in 30 years.

Aren’t we glad I’m not the head of a globally significant OS project who publicly humiliates people?

Calling out incompetence and being a fucking dick are not the same thing, and the fact that people (you included) think that you can’t point out mistakes without being a cunt is the entire problem here

Sure, I never said otherwise, but the problem is usually that people are so blinded by his being a tech leader that they excuse his behavior. Seriously, imagine this was literally anybody else, they’d get booted from their position faster than you can say “motherfucker”

Ah yes, Linus Torvalds, the man who convinced generations of nerds that it’s okay to treat others like shit as long as you’re “right”.

He’s like the walking epitome of “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.”

Edit: and the neckbeards who spring to his defense always screech about how everybody else needs to stop being so thin-skinned.

No, assholes need to stop treating people like shit. Don’t put this on the rest of us