• Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz
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    3 months ago

    How many Canadians are killed by gun violence? May 8, 2024 by Wayne Fletcher

    In Canada, approximately 250 to 300 people are killed by gun violence each year.

    (https://thegunzone.com/how-many-canadians-are-killed-by-gun-violence/)

    Motor Vehicle Fatalities on the Rise in Canada – 2024 Data Study Overall Findings:

    After three decades of decline, the number of motor vehicle fatalities in Canada went up by 6% in 2022

    The number of fatalities is estimated to have reached 2,004 in 2023 and is projected to increase to 2,045 (+2% YoY) by the end of 2024

    (https://www.preszlerlaw.com/blog/motor-vehicle-fatalities-on-rise-in-canada/)

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      3 months ago

      Are you making some kind of weird whataboutist argument here? Road safety and gun safety are not mutually exclusive.

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        3 months ago

        They’re not mutually exclusive, but cars are much more dangerous than guns. Car violence needs to be addressed before gun violence.

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            Solving car violence is achievable without stripping rights and inviting government tyranny. Solving gun violence is not.

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              Now you’re saying something different from before. Before you were talking about the order in which the two problems should be addressed, now you’re telling about whether each one should be addressed and how. You’re not discussing in good faith.

            • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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              Safety regulations does not equate to “government tyranny”

              That’s the same argument made against seat belts, masks and vaccines.

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    Gun violence in Canada is near exclusively committed with illegal firearms brought up from the states. The limits on long guns for people with PALs does nothing to curb the violence.

    Also, lots of specific model gun prohibitions are literally based on how scary a gun looks and not anything to do with things like barrel length or caliber. The FN FAL was recently prohibited because you can fix a bayonet, like all those pesky criminals are doing these days…

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      The sks often has a bayonet and is one of the most common guns in Canada.

    • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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      Really pushing the disinformation and gaslighting here. Pearl clutching about your weapons designed to kill others under the guise of “hobbies”

      Illegal guns are sold from legal owners to criminals. So no they’re not “well intentioned individuals”

      There was also an incident where a father used his legal gun to kill his wife, father in law then himself. Wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t allowed access to guns in the first place.

      “78.3% of gun-related domestic homicides in Canada were committed with firearms in the legal possession of licensed owners.”

      https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Guns-in-family-violence%3A-legal-weapons-pose-the-Alpers/4d9d64178589bce820cf197674f694324921e7d7

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        Your source was published in 1995. A lot of regulation has changed over the last 30 years. I wonder what the numbers look like now.

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    Don’t fall for the conservative framing of the issue. If you read the article, these are all sensible commitments that they are requesting, that essentially enshrine further things that actually responsible gun owners would be taking for granted.

    • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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      A prominent gun control group is urging Prime Minister Mark Carney to swiftly implement Liberal election promises on firearms and avoid the foot-dragging that left many pledges under the previous government unfulfilled.

      PolySeSouvient includes students and graduates of Montreal’s École Polytechnique, where a gunman killed 14 women in 1989.

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    PolySeSouvient’s letter, dated last Friday, is copied to others, including Provost, current Public Safety Minister David McGuinty and Rachel Bendayan, a former associate public safety minister.

    The group says the new public safety minister should be directed to:

    — build an incentive package in the buyback program to encourage early compliance;

    — conduct meaningful consultations with stakeholders before draft bills, regulations, directives and public education campaigns are made public;

    — immediately launch an investigation into the classification of the SKS, a rifle that has been used in mass and police shootings, to find a solution that protects public safety and respects Indigenous rights to hunt;

    — eliminate all loopholes, exemptions and exceptions related to magazine capacity.

    We should hastily implement every recommendation.

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    I support strict gun control laws, and also have my RPAL.

    My question is what specific changes do they want, and what specific weakness does it address?

    Are there deficiencies in our laws that could be improved, to reduce firearm injuries and deaths? Let’s have at 'em!

    Are there specifc guns that are too easy to modify to full-auto? Don’t need 'em.

    But if we’re going to start (continue) banning guns only because they look scary, then stop with the performative BS.

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    The Liberals are never going to come for my guns because I don’t own military style guns and cosplay as a Gravy Seal.

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      The Conservatives use gun control as a wedge issue. Carney was quick to drop the carbon tax because it was politically toxic - it isn’t beyond the pale to imagine he’d do the same with gun control. 🤷‍♂️

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        It’s the Liberals who have been fiddling with gun laws for 30 years anytime they need a bump in the polls.

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          Yup. It’s a wedge issue. Politicians push on them because to get votes or donations.

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          If Canada ever reaches a point like the USA where the government is unlawfully abducting people from their homes, you may understand why some people think common people should be able to own guns.

          We unfortunately live in a world where guns exist and they can be used for oppression. People stand a better chance against armed opression when they themselves are armed.

          Not every gun owner is out here using guns as an extension of power, most just use them for hobbies and huntings. And many express that they would fight against nazi level opression if it comes down to it.

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              This article is about handguns. The vast majority of legal guns in Canada are shotguns and rifles. Handguns are already severely restricted in Canada and it is impossible to get one legally now unless your job requires one, such as law enforcement, game wardens, or certain security companies.