“suggesting that NATO expansion was one of the causes of the war”
“We gave Putin just cause,”
Those are definitely Russian propaganda talking points.
This is how they get us. Infiltrate the groups that we already agree with, like pro-Palestine, anti-Israel, then flood those communities with “…and also we should all hate NATO!”, and people like this guy can’t tell the difference.
Yeah that doesn’t work. I’ve been called a RUssiAn ShiLL a lot in here for caring about the genocide in gaza. You guys sounds like McCarty. You know what they say about crying wolf
The NATO operated a bunch of right wing spy in the intelligence services in the event of a communist invasion.
The EMN project promotes a group of U.S. military veterans as experts and pundits willing to talk about the war in Ukraine. Some of them have been echoing Kremlin propaganda lines by claiming that U.S. military support for Ukraine is extending and intensifying the fighting, and suggesting that NATO expansion was one of the causes of the war. “We gave Putin just cause,” the director of EMN, Dennis Fritz, told The Daily Beast in an interview.
This is not “anti-war” this is a “why are you hitting yourself” way of looking at things. Ukraine is a sovereign country that can make its own decisions. Supporting their fight against the invasion is not warmongering, it’s the opposite. After all, it is just the latest in Putin’s long list of wars, and if it does not stop at Ukraine, he will start more wars.
On .world, any point of view that contradicts mainstream American talking points is immediately a tankie point of view. It’s to the point of self-parody by now, but these morons actually think they’re defenders of democracy and justice or some shit.
While that can definitely be true, it’s not the case in this instance, they actually did say Russia was justified and that Ukraine joining NATO provoked the war.
Bunch of links here - https://www.reddit.com/r/vermont/comments/11wlmkn/fyi_ben_cohen_ben_and_jerrys_is_donating_a/
Basically Ukraine should just “negotiate and end to the war” instead of fight for survival in their opinion.
Being anti war is not being anti Ukraine or pro Russia for that matter.
Those are definitely Russian propaganda talking points.
This is how they get us. Infiltrate the groups that we already agree with, like pro-Palestine, anti-Israel, then flood those communities with “…and also we should all hate NATO!”, and people like this guy can’t tell the difference.
I didn’t need russia to hate nato. They killed left wing politician in europe from the 80ies
NATO did not kill any left wing politicians in Europe in the 80’s, or elsewhere, or at any other time. That’s Russian propaganda.
Yeah that doesn’t work. I’ve been called a RUssiAn ShiLL a lot in here for caring about the genocide in gaza. You guys sounds like McCarty. You know what they say about crying wolf
The NATO operated a bunch of right wing spy in the intelligence services in the event of a communist invasion.
This is not “anti-war” this is a “why are you hitting yourself” way of looking at things. Ukraine is a sovereign country that can make its own decisions. Supporting their fight against the invasion is not warmongering, it’s the opposite. After all, it is just the latest in Putin’s long list of wars, and if it does not stop at Ukraine, he will start more wars.
If ukraine is self-governing why didn’t the gorbatchev referendum got respected?
On .world, any point of view that contradicts mainstream American talking points is immediately a tankie point of view. It’s to the point of self-parody by now, but these morons actually think they’re defenders of democracy and justice or some shit.
While that can definitely be true, it’s not the case in this instance, they actually did say Russia was justified and that Ukraine joining NATO provoked the war.
Meanwhile, americans are sending tanks to gaza and they don’t give a shit. Hypocrites!
Almost all wars end in negotiations. It’s not on us to decide which terms are acceptable to Ukrainians.
Pretty sure Ben doesn’t have ownership or control over Ben and Jerry’s anymore, so I wouldn’t put his baggage on them.
The links …
The People Power Initiative - a Gmail account and physical address is the only info there. No menu or other links.
Eisenhower Media Network is a mess, bouncing from calls for peace to just short of supporting Russia.