How is this not bigger news?
I’d bet anything the police and media response to this is and will be orders of magnitude less than when that healthcare guy got clapped.
Insurance guy. The healthcare is what he was denying.
Well said…
The fact we have to clarify this distinction…
Pretty sure they were throwing “assassinated” in the headlines very early on there where this is just a “shooting” even though Tim Walz has already declared it a politically motivated assassination.
Nationally maybe, but not in Minnesota.
Or even just in comparison to the “violent ice protests”
My very first thought was about Luigi and thinking if this guy is found alive he likely won’t have any serious response. It seems they have a suspect but the dude was clearly wearing a mask so idk how they determined that
You know what’s fucked up is that I don’t even have to look. I can tell you right now that the victims in this crime are part of the Democratic party. You know how I know? Because the FBI director and the president are talking about prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law and how violence in America will never be acceptable.
But if it was the other way around and a Democrat went nuts and killed a Republican senator Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung or stretched or quartered or whatever it is they did to people in the middle ages.

But if it was the other way around … Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung…
Not just that, but he would be demonizing the whole Democrat party, saying how their dangerous rhetoric caused this and the party needs to be outlawed and its leaders arrested.
This right here — as the if the Republican Party has done nothing to inspire violence
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Just look at what they’re doing to our boy Luigi
It’s the democratIC party.
Even worse, I’m sure when they catch this guy, trump is going to pardon him.
Trump cannot pardon state crimes. Murder is a state crime, not federal.
My assumption is that if Luigi is getting charged at the federal level for killing one random, rich white guy, this person who has killed two politicians and has a hit list for others, would be charged at the federal level for terrorism. At least I’d expect that in a normal, functional society, which we’re not.
18 US Code 1751 says that assassination of political officials can be tried in federal court
Anyone want to bets that it was a Nazi who did the shooting?
Those where in Europe, they have since rebranded themselves to wearing red hats
Some of them call themselves Nazis.
That’s funded up, but unsurprisingly expected
Black rappers are calling themselves nazis and selling swastica t-shirts on Super Bowl commercials.
Guess I have one thing in common…
Boycott RHEL!
wait, what? Really? Oh…
This just in: This may not be related to RHEL
As someone who works for Red Hat, I really wish it would have been any other color that Trump chose.
I mean, you’re now owned by IBM who did help the Nazi’s… seems like it’s come full circle!
Well, if you’re going to start listing the US firms that helped Nazi Germany, we’re going to be here all day.
I was going to be here all day anyway :(‘
Basically any company that existed back then.
Ever used a floppy disk or a VHS? Chances are it was made by BASF.
BASF is one of the resulting companies after IG Farben of Cyclone B fame was forcefully broken up.
Yeah, trends in politics and culture really shafted the brand.
- Nothing wrong about red hats if it wasn’t for Maga.
- Nothing wrong with fedoras if it wasn’t for 4chan incels 15 years ago.
Now I’m curious if it’d be possible to rebrand to GreenBeanie. It has a nice ring to it.
Fedoras were Redditors, not 4channers. The idea was that you had guys who thought they were dressing nice by wearing a cheap fedora and like cargo shorts.
4chan incels don’t leave the house.
M’lady
tips ubuntu
He was dressed as a cop, driving a police car, wearing a blue uniform, and a bulletproof vest.
Is he a cop then? The cop car part is confusing otherwise. Uniform etc. not so much.
Edit: I see elsewhere that the car was disguised too
“Disguised” we’ve willingly made police cars so obscure they don’t stand out anymore. Here in Maine every car could be a cop car.
There’s one in my town that is black. With black writing on it that says police. The only way to see the text is to see the difference in sheen between the paint and the writing.
it should be very illegal
Yeah, cops call this ghost marking. They do it to skirt around the laws regarding marked vs unmarked vehicles. Unmarked vehicles have stricter requirements, so cops ghost mark their vehicles and say “look, they’re technically not unmarked, so they don’t have to follow all of those stricter rules.”
Then they’ll check your window tint with their expert window tint detector flashlight.
Yeah, every time they get a new upgrade over here it’s even harder to detect. But it’s part of the uniform. Should stand out and be hard to replicate.
Start calling 911 when you get pulled over to confirm it’s a real officer and really just make it a headache for him and they’ll go back to normal.
“Hi I’m just calling to verify this unmarked pulling me over is a real officer” they will get the picture after a couple of thousand of those
In Minnesota?
Cop cars are very distinct. Big white and black SUVs with guard rails and big ass lights. They look like they’re going to run you over fun. I call em intimidation transports.
This isn’t completely accurate. I live in South Saint Paul and some of our police have Ford Explorers with no visible light bars and dark blue lettering on black paint.
I’ve seen state patrol make stops on 494 between the Wakota bridge and 35E in dark blue unmarked chargers.
They’re relatively new I think but that same trend of low-profile police cars has started here now too.
Goddamnit. Would explain the lack of police cruisers I’ve seen up there.
I think I’ve seen an unmarked cop SUV in St Paul before, maybe it was one of yours, or maybe it was this fucker?
I’m in South Saint Paul so if you were in Saint Paul it was a different one since that’s a different city.
Yeah spend all this money on tanks and shit, then they’re gonna drive around in a Hyundai?
We have three different colors of Ford escapes with very discreet light bars. They look like every other fucking Ford escape on the road or whatever those stupid SUVs are. So every Karen looks like a cop and every cop looks like a Karen.
Yeah I’ve been looking at them since @LilBOkChoy said something. They must be newer. They are quite literally impossible to see.
Seems appropriate for a police state though. China must be jelly of them
It’s just funny watching the citizens make their cars more like cop cars too. I shit my pants a little bit speeding and then notice it’s not a cop riding my ass it’s just granny trying to race to an early grave
No, he and his wife ran a security firm that said it owned the same vehicles as used by the police
Qualified immunity coming in 3, 2, 1…
Tell me you don’t know what qualified immunity is without telling me you don’t know that qualified immunity is.
Edit: Seems like a lot of people don’t know what qualified immunity is.
Qualified immunity means a cop can’t be personally liable in civil litigation for legal actions taken while doing their job.
It has nothing to do criminal prosecution when they break the law. It basically just means you have to sue the police department, not the cop.
He feared for his life. They were coming right for him.
I’m not sure what that has to do with being protected from a civil lawsuit.
Tell me you didn’t get the joke without telling me.
A significant amount of criticism contends that qualified immunity allows police brutality to go unpunished.[6] Legal researchers Amir H. Ali and Emily Clark, for instance, have argued that “qualified immunity permits law enforcement and other government officials to violate people’s constitutional rights with virtual impunity”.[45] Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor has noted a “disturbing trend” of siding with police officers using excessive force with qualified immunity,[46] describing it as “sanctioning a ‘shoot first, think later’ approach to policing”.
The joke being that the suspect was an offer who showed up, claimed that their life was in danger, and shot everyone to death. The officer will then use qualified immunity as a defence to an extrajudicial killing.
Right, but the joke is based on the misconception that qualified immunity means immunity from prosecution, which is false.
Spreading misinformation is always bad.
Right… You just clarified that they’re immune to civil litigation. And we all know they won’t be charged criminally. So what we’re saying is that they get off scot free.
100%
On reddit they said it was a evangelical pastor, go figure
Guaranteed.
He is an evangelistic Christian
So a Nat-C.
This isn’t just assassination, it’s terrorism designed to scare opponents of Trump from speaking out. The media won’t say that, of course, because it’s likely the shooter is white.
Exactly that. Also, don’t forget that every chance they get they say “a man posing as a police officer” and they then describe that he was dressed exactly like a cop including a badge and cop car
The shootings are the latest in a string of seemingly lone-wolf politically motivated violence.
Good grief, could they whitewash this any harder?
It’s also done on no kings day so we all know what the headline will be. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence on reflection.
They even canceled the Minnesota No Kings over this shit
The Minnesota No Kings rally was NOT cancelled because of this. There were thousands of people at the Capitol
More like your generic antiabortion terrorist
It was planned to be a distraction so news coverage wouldn’t focus on all the protests today. Can’t show bigger crowds in rural America than whatever few bootlickers showed up to watch Trump’s birthday parade.
yea they need good sound bytes for fox, oan and newsmax, cant have them protesting news all the time. it makes trump look really bad.
“They will be prosecuting anyone involved to the fullest extent of the law,” Trump said in a statement. “Such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America.”
Ah, like they did with the violent perpetrators of the January 6th insurrection, until you pardoned them all and set them free.
Wonder if the perp will turn out to be a pardoned j6er…
It’s kind of crazy that one of my thoughts was that I hope this gets tried as a state case so Trump can’t pardon them.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/13/us/video/florida-sheriff-warns-protesters-we-will-kill-you-digvid
Tell me why I shouldn’t think it was an actual police officer that assassinated them ?
I heard that he even was in a police car. He had a badge and taser and vest etc… it really does feel like it actually is a police officer
A reporter who saw the vehicle said that it would look like a police vehicle from a distance and at night, but during the day it looked off, like you’d think ‘that might not be a real cop’.
And they’ve identified the suspect and he’s not a cop.
New information shows it was a security company run by evangelicals that he worked for. So his vehicle likely was intentionally looking like police. Could even have lights on top. And they could wear uniforms, carry most anything a cop can, the badge would be different, but at 2am…
Edit: the vehicle did have lights, and a ram on the front like police SUVs have. Also a photo of him shows him looking like an officer. Long navy sleeves, black vest with lights/utility
Mr. Boelter and his wife run a private security company in Minnesota, according to its website. The company, Praetorian Guard Security Services, lists Mr. Boelter as the director of security patrols and his wife as the president. The firm’s website describes using Ford Explorer S.U.V.s, “the same make and model of vehicles that many police departments use.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html
Praetorian Guard Security Services
Of course that’s the name of their company.
“suspect” fall guy for the cop.
A blues brother?
Was probably on a mission from god.
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That’s why the Blue’s Brothers weren’t in it directly for the money. They just needed to save the ophanage.
Sort of…
I.R.S. tax forms show that Mr. Boelter and his wife once led a Christian nonprofit called Revoformation Ministries. An archived version of the group’s website described Mr. Boelter as becoming an ordained minister in 1993.
I don’t think he hates Illinois Nazi’s though.
He ran a security business.
Ah yes, rent a cop
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Sure sounds like MAGA is trying to start a hot civil war.
Going to be interesting when these people find out liberals are well armed and trained.
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Yeah, flashing your piece at them does indeed strike me as a tad gay ;-)
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Same. I’ve actually turned down closeted Republican men who didn’t hesitate to tell me that they essentially wanted me to be their stay at home girlfriend… As a grown ass man. Fuck all that.
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Good for you!!! It’s a pity that the shitheads harass you though.
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I support your right to put them 6feet under if they take it beyond verbal. But be careful, they can lie and get you targeted by the police. But I’m sure you’re ready to deal with that.
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Keywords.
Flash my piece - white in the face - fuck - real quick
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In case no one told you over and over, the piece is innuendo for penis
What piece are you talking about? Statement makes sense either way.
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Maybe they’re worried you’ll club them to death with your massive penis
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Yah, we’re on the interweb. For all I know he could be Drath’nor.
That’s brandishing and it’s going to get you arrested
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Just be careful,.don’t want you to get hurt
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People are getting kidnapped off the street. Use the strap on whoever tries to “arrest” you
Best be careful doing that. Flashing your gun is called brandishing and is illegal in most cases. You only show your gun when you are ready to fire it.
TBH, I seriously considered going strapped to the protest today. But I think I’d rather be a martyr than be the guy who shot someone at the protest even if it was to defend myself and my fellow protestors. At least that’s my thinking now while violence is unlikely in my town. If violence gets more prevalent and more expected, I might change my mind.
I respect the thought you put into it, and it sounds like the right choice, for the time being at least. Hopefully it stays that way…
I’m proud of you for thinking critically, we need more of that in the world. Thank you hoppy spider guy.
That was my exact thinking this morning as well. My state allows concealed carry without a permit, so I could legally go with my carry… but I thought better of it. I didn’t expect any violence where I’m at, and it just seemed like it wasn’t worth the risk, being the cause of more harm than good. It kinda went against the spirit of this protest imo, so I left it at home
Fuck it, I’m not that scared of dying that I gotta go strapped everywhere to feel safe. There’s a time and place for carrying, and the protest wasn’t one of them for me
The troubles started similarly from a politically motivated assassination by the UVF. Alongside violent responses from authority during peaceful civil rights marches and the deployment of the British army.
If a civil war starts, you likely won’t know you’re in one until much later.
We’re in one. It already started.
Like I said, I sure hope I don’t have to. But I will arm myself if things get to that point. This does remind me that I should go to the range and practice more.
It’s always the magas inciting violence. Rushing to violence is a side effect of ignorance.
If you’re looking for a civil war, you’d be a fool to think the Magas aren’t better prepared for base violence.
I personally man handled service members as a security guard in a military port town. I know where I stand. They can be as violent as possible. I can get even more crazier. And at that point. I break out the instant kill moves a dead SEAL friend taught me as my last resorts.
They’re preparing for dooms day… They’re fulfilling their own prophecy. I’m in a red area and I just saw an ad about getting a permit to concealed carry. Guns aren’t allowed here.
I keep hearing this. What are y’all waiting for, things to get bad?
What do you think they should do? Go to Minnesota and wack two Republicans to balance the legislature back out?
If they were as tiny minded and reactionary as you, I guess so ;)
How convenient. House is a 67-67 D and R. State Senate 34 D 33 R. Not political at all this assassination…
Even the article explicitly says this is politically motivated, this isn’t being presented as random
it was kinda obvious since it was targeting democrats only, and abortion providers.
Are there actually no safeguards against this? It seems like a pretty big fucking flaw in a democratic system if you can kill the opposing elected officials in order to gain control of the state. Like their votes should temporarily go to someone else in the party or something, not just be wiped out completely.
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someone mentioned that in subreddit, yea they want to break that tie, but it would be whoever is control that appoints a special interim though.
The details of this story are horrifying. The assassin went to the houses of two different lawmakers in the middle of the night (2am). Dressed as a cop.
In the dark, the people in each house had no reasonable way to know that the person ringing their doorbell at 2am was not a cop. Presumably he shot whoever came to the door then entered the house and shot the other spouse.
There’s no way the people who were shot could have reasonably prevented being killed
So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don’t answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don’t answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door.
Don’t answer anyway, if they have a warrent they will come in regardless.
They come in without one all the time, and just get a bit of PTO for it, courtesy of we the people.
How is this not bigger news?
- https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/speaker-emerita-melissa-hortman-husband-killed-rep-john-hoffman-and-wife-also-shot/
- https://abcnews.go.com/US/2-minnesota-lawmakers-shot-targeted-incident-officials/story?id=122840751
- https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2025/06/14/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-targeted-attacks
- https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/leaked-trump-dhs-memo-warned-of-attacks-like-minnesota-shootings-just-months-ago/
- https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-d7983e1e4f1a7573a487cab1a98cd172
- https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-06-14/minnesota-gov-tim-walz-former-house-speaker-melissa-hortman-and-husband-killed-in-politically-motivated-shooting
Thanks, I was looking the sub and all the top posts I see where about the protests, Israel v Iran, and the orange man’s ego parade
Yeah, there’s just a lot happening right now. You’d think this would at least rise above the ego parade, but :shrug:.
It raises above. Any news needs time to spread.
It’s on Frontpage CNN and The Guardian.
Reporting in from Minnesota: State law enforcement is now telling everybody “Do not show up to No Kings Day Events”
Show up. Don’t let these assholes control you through fear.
Sen. Walz posted on Bluesky for people to not go to protests and there were 400 comments of mostly people saying they were going anyways. Was nice to see.
Walz is governor. His statement is intentional. He needs to be seen as “giving good advice”.
He knows it won’t stop anyone. Just like during the George Floyd protests. He knows what he’s doing.
Thank you for this comment. I live in Minnesota and expect that if they believe there’s a safety concern this is what they should be saying.
Of course we’re still going to go but it’s only right for our representatives to make sure we, as Minnesotans, can make that decision with full understanding of the safety risks.
Trump is a larger safety concern than any single gunman. They should frame it in that context imo.
Some people will get busted up and arrested if not worse. We’d all be safe and sound just sitting at home, watching TV and flipping through tiktok, for some time, until we can’t breathe, we’re forced out of our homes because we can’t afford them or we’re in the way of a golf course, we lose our kids because we told them a man can love another man, we can’t go anywhere because every road is busted or costs money to use, our profession becomes non-existent from AI doing everything, and we die of cancer because health insurance is “our own responsibility” as is navigating insurance bureaucracy.
Yeah, a nice sitcom would hit the spot.
Proud of you Minnesota
Fuck that. It’s ok to be scared, but try to fight back.
Thousands went anyway
As they fucking should.
You don’t need permission to protest. If they try to stop you, protest harder and escalate accordingly
I went to my local one (not in MN) after reading this news, and I brought my pistol.
the slain lawmaker as State Rep. Melissa Hortman of Brooklyn Park and her husband, Mark, while state Sen. John Hoffman of Champlin and his wife, Yvette, were injured. Both lawmakers were members of the Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party. […] The assailant, who is still at large, allegedly impersonated a police officer.
My support and sympathy to the families. Absolutely no surprise at any of that news.
“impersonating” a police officer. Yup, on the largest protest day ever. No need to think more about it. Surely it wouldn’t be an actual cop using a scapegoat, nope .
If we don’t know who did it, how do we know it was impersonation??
Well they found the vehicle and it was a non-police vehicle disguised as police. So while this doesn’t 100% rule out it being police, it seems a reasonable inference.
Suuuuuure. And next you will tell me no authoritarian government uses fake emergency vehicles.
He was only dressed fully as a cop with full gear and had a car that looked like a cop car with lights and all.
Clearly an ANTIFA shenanigan /s
Edit: Ehhh pretty close
The suspect in the assassination and attempted assassination of two Minnesota lawmakers has been identified as Vance Boelter, two law enforcement officials briefed on the case tell CNN.
Boelter is 57 years old and according to a law enforcement official, he works for a security company, Praetorian Guard Security. The company website says that Boelter serves as the director of security patrols and has had training by people in the US military.
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Police say suspect dressed as law enforcement and shot at responding officers before escaping
I’m just gonna say. Might the suspect have been a police officer? I wouldn’t trust the police to disclose that.
I mean if they are wearing a uniform and emerged from a cop car as eyewitness accounts suggest…
The gunman was still at large, law enforcement said on Saturday, and the city of Brooklyn Park was still under a shelter-in-place order. The shooter was impersonating a police officer, dressed in a uniform that would appear to be real to most people, police said.
“They did drive a vehicle that looked exactly like an SUV squad car,” Brooklyn Park’s police chief, Mark Bruley, said at a press conference. “It was equipped with lights, emergency lights, that looked exactly like a police vehicle, and yes, they were wearing a vest with Taser, other equipment, a badge very similar to mine, that, no question, if they were in this room, you would assume that they are a police officer.”
Hmmmmmmmm~~
“We have to remain non-violent”
Meanwhile, the far right nutjobs
Do we need to mention that they were both democratic politicians? Many of us would love to see the list of the others he was going to kill. I’m sort of thinking they were all Democrats.
if they were a Republican it would be screamed everywhere about how liberals are using violence
Apparently, they’re still screaming about how liberals are using violence. Nucking futz.
Yeah, the tone I am seeing in conservative spaces about this has shifting to the gunman being a CIA operative to smeer conservatives.
“LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!”
I think it was the Pro Left that had a recent podcast about how the Democrats are set up as the balancing force that is always put into the position of an abused housewife that must mollify the crazy alcoholic husband, which is the Republicans.
Pretty apt metaphor, and I’m not doing it justice, but it’s pretty much considered “normal” for Republicans to do and say nearly anything, and then everyone blames the Democrats for making the Republicans do what they do…it’s all DARVO.
it was, there was a list being mentioned on a subreddit, it includes tim walz, and others, plus abortion workers.
…the gunman had a list that included her name and the names of other lawmakers, all of whom were Democrats. The list included about 70 potential targets, a federal law enforcement official said, including doctors, community and business leaders, and locations for Planned Parenthood and other health care centers. Some of the targets were in neighboring states.
The article said his hit list included about 70 targets, ALL Democrats.
This morning’s update identified him as a part-time pastor and a part-time military contractor. Sure sounds like a raging conservative to me.
