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They also announced that their servers are moving outside out of Switzerland due to concerns with the new surveillance proposals.

  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    27·
    3 个月前

    Kind of light on details. “Lumo is based upon open-source language models”. Okay. Which ones? [Edit: they offer more details at https://proton.me/support/lumo-privacy : “The models we’re using currently are Nemo, OpenHands 32B, OLMO 2 32B, and Mistral Small 3”]

    Not sure how I feel about this. I figured Proton would find some clever way to run models on encrypted data, or at least do something akin to Apple’s “private cloud compute” but…nope, just another cloud platform like any other. Zero-logging is all fine and good, but don’t pretend like you can’t access my chats when the only thing stopping you is your logging policy.

    Web search — If you ask it to, Lumo can search the web for new or recent information to complement its existing knowledge.

    Again, no details. So you’re not sharing my data, but you are potentially leaking it to unnamed search engines? Cool, cool.

    Oh, and it has built in Proton Docs integration, in case you wanted to accidentally send your documents, unencrypted, through Proton’s servers. And also maybe leak their contents to a third-party search engine, who knows?

    Please, Proton. E2EE or GTFO. The world doesn’t need another chatbot. If you can’t do it right, just don’t do it.

  • anonfopyapperEnglish
    262·
    3 个月前

    privacy first

    model is not open source

    trust me bro we don’t share your data

  • TaalnaziEnglish
    17·
    3 个月前

    And to where exactly are the servers moving? And why do they still have a Twitter link?

    Transparency is key!

    • OptionalEnglish
      21·
      3 个月前

      why do they still have a Twitter link?

      MAGA baby!

    • anonfopyapperEnglish
      137·
      3 个月前

      What is wrong with adding an llm? That is not even integrates in other proton products?

      EU needs in-house LLMs

      • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        5·
        3 个月前

        They said it integrates with Proton Drive. Optional, but still. That is data that is otherwise strictly end-to-end encrypted, and now they’re adding a “convenient” method to send it through their AI unencrypted, and they are not upfront about that.

        Proton has a problem with focus. They keep adding new things of limited value, presumably in a quest for growth. That usually doesn’t end well.

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        51·
        3 个月前

        Proton is based in Switzerland. Not EU.

        Edit: Apparently that’s changing.

        Because of legal uncertainty around Swiss government proposals to introduce mass surveillance — proposals that have been outlawed in the EU — Proton is moving most of its physical infrastructure out of Switzerland. Lumo will be the first product to move.

    • GueorisEnglish
      116·
      3 个月前

      I understand your point of view, but I think that in today’s society, a company can’t afford to fall too far behind when it comes to current uses. I’m perfectly aware of the risks that AI brings, but if it can enable some people to find a -private- way out of American AI, I think it’s a good thing.

    • lIlIlIlIlIlIlEnglish
      29·
      3 个月前

      Hard agree, I’m sure he’s sending all your data to Putin

  • vatlarkEnglish
    8·
    3 个月前

    Did Proton train their own LLM or is it a Mistral model?

      • vatlarkEnglish
        9·
        3 个月前

        Lumo being a cat is a cute nod to the Mistral team, who’s AI chat bot is Le Chat (the cat).

    • vatlarkEnglish
      4·
      3 个月前

      The second time I had to try a little harder to get it to admit that it was Mistral.

  • OptionalEnglish
    157·
    3 个月前

    Ever since Proton went MAGA their presence has just gotten weirder. This is another giant step in a direction nobody wanted.

    Glad I dropped them.

  • Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    5·
    3 个月前

    I don’t get it? This is more about a chatbot service than about LMM, right? It doesn’t sound like they release the model, which would mean it’s less privacy-friendly than running R1, Qwen3, Llama, Mistral or Gemma3 on your own machines. Google and Meta honestly offer better privacy with Gemma and Llama.

    Edit: Okay, “Private LLM Called Lumo” is what the title of this post says, that has nothing to do with what Proton wrote. Proton only wrote that it won’t be used to train LLM.

    I’ll still stick to Ollama + https://github.com/n4ze3m/page-assist