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    6 days ago

    China has authoritarianism and repression but not full on mass genocide like America and the EU.

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          5 days ago

          Alright so we’ll just go ahead and mark you down for “indifferent to Uyghur persecution”.

          Also, the treatment of Uyghurs meets the definition for genocide. Please read the article.

          Those accusing China of genocide point to intentional acts they say violate Article II of the Genocide Convention,[22][23][24] which prohibits “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part,” a “racial or religious group” including “causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group” and “measures intended to prevent births within the group”.[

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            4 days ago

            Those who? Which respected human rights organization calls it a genocide? [22][23][24]?

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              4 days ago

              My bad. I wasn’t aware that real genocides are decided by “respected human rights organizations”, otherwise it’s just a sparkling extermination program. Are you fucking serious right now?

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                4 days ago

                Stop trying to devalue to meaning of the word genocide. If an opponent of the West was committing genocide these organisations would be the very first to use the term.

                Genocide is a crime on Holocaust level specifically focused on exterminating a group.

                Not every war crime or authoritarian oppression suddenly becomes genocide.

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                  So, hypothetically, by your understanding of the word genocide… If I relocated a group of people based on ethnic or cultural identity, forced abortions, sterilized the populace, separated families and in some cases just straight up murdered them…that wouldn’t constitute a genocide in your mind?

                  Clearly, you care more about the “value of the definition of genocide” more than you care about people who are actually victims of it by definition.

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      5 days ago

      No genocides recently, just massacring millions of their own civilians for having a different belief.

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            4 days ago

            I am sure China has committed genocides in the past but I am also not putting Japan on the genocide list because the rape of Nanking. The only event people keep bringing up regarding China is the Tiannenmen Square riots where less than a thousand people were killed. And even accepting all Western narratives that was certainly not a targeted extermination of a certain population but it would be political repression.

            We are talking about active genocides. People need to stop devalueing the word genocide.

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              4 days ago

              I never said genocide I was just pointing out that they’ve done a bit more than just authoritarianism and repression. Tiannenmen square is a blip on the CCP massacres.

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                4 days ago

                Germany and America are beating protesters harder than China currently and nobody accuses them of genocide for that.

                America is directly committing genocide in Gaza with their boots on the ground though. And Germany is heavily complicit.

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                  4 days ago

                  Ah yes, the American private military contractors on the ground distributing aid and Germans beating some protestors. Totally comparable to China killing 4 million of their own people.

                  Also theres a news story on the front page of chinese police beating citizens bloody with batons and cattle prods for protesting justice for girl who got bullied.

                  Is China responsible for supplying russia in their war?

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                    4 days ago

                    You mean Americans shooting and killing Palestinians right? Do link your four million source.