• AbNormalHumanBeing@piefed.world
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    4 months ago

    I may be misremembering, so take this as potential bullshit, but I seem to recall there was a study (or just a survey?) that seemed to indicate, that onlineness for men generally correlated with less mysogyny than the overall population - with the exception of those explicitly in the “manosphere” bubble, who then spike on the far end of the spectrum.

    Thinking back of how I remember groups of boys and men (which I was a part of) talking with each other offline before widespread internet access (or even now), that kind of made sense to me. I remember being often rather alone with my opinions and being told stuff like: “Just accept that sexism is funny.” Especially thinking back to pre-internet teenage me, I had a lot of weird assumptions internalized that online exchanges, seeing actual, unfiltered opinions of women mostly, helped correct.

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    4 months ago

    Every love song by a woman will tell you what women want.

    My favorite example is “Whatta Man”

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      Yes! This is legit one of my favorite songs by two of the best R&B bands of the early '90s, and I love the way they describe the man. Nothing unattainable, and most of it isn’t about his looks at all but rather about his personality. Mature, secure, attentive, kind.

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    Kinda funny because I remember a video with some manosphere idiots talking to a crowd (must’ve been a conference or some sort of event), they were sitting on the stage, one of the “alphas” (i think it was andrew tate, bald idiot with a goatee) starts negging on another dude beside him, calling him a fat slob and ranting nonstop about how ugly he looks. Even the comments on the video were all “is the alpha dude gay? Why is he so worried about the guy being fat? Why does he want him to be muscular and hot?”

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    Nice I just need to get into AI Protein and crypto and I’ll be attractive to straight men online.

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      haha same, i just also need no feelings, serial killer coding, tight clothing and a scrappy-doo physique! i’ve already weirdly veiny so that’s vascularity checked off - i’m basically already there

    • 474D
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      If you’re chill, respectful, and can make her laugh, most of the time you have a shot

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        Short kings, who own who they are and remain confident about it, are absolutely welcome in my bed.

        However, short, whiny men who use their height as an excuse to complain about women? I don’t want to be with someone like that, regardless of their appearance.

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          I would never want to bed someone so condescending.

          Short men are allowed to have feelings and we are allowed to speak about our disadvantages.

          What’s next, you’re going to go up to a fat woman and tell her she can go fuck herself if she gets upset that people find her unattractive?

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            There’s a difference between “having feelings” and “blaming a group for not dating (you.)” If someone doesn’t want to date you for something you can’t change, that sounds like dodging a bullet. Confidence is hot. Being whiny about being rejected is not.

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              I never blamed anyone?

              All I said was that height was a factor in women’s choice.

              They are allowed to have choices and I am allowed to be upset that I’m considered less desirable because of it.

              And fuck off, a man expresses how he feels and he’s “whiny”? Fuck this shit, you’re a jerk.

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                I never called you anything, either. Go re-read my posts.

                The only times I used the word you were:

                I used “(you)” to complete one sentence, using parentheses precisely to express that I wasn’t referring specifically to you (if I had been, I would’ve just said “you.”) The sentence after it contains “you,” but it’s a statement of fact no matter who reads it. Where’s the personal insult?

                I spoke about two camps: short kings and whiny complainers. If you chose to see yourself as being one of the “whiny men” instead of as one of the “short kings,” that’s 100% on you.

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                  You bought it up as a direct response to me. Don’t pretend it’s suddenly not directed at me.

                  You’re a misandrist jerk.

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        That’s very individual. I know exactly one woman who insists her man must be taller than her. Most I know like tall but don’t really care much. And I know one that has an upper limit while shorter men are ok.

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          And how many women do you know with shorter partners? Go out in public and look at all the couples you see, how many have shorter men?

          Everyone says they don’t care, but the bias is 100% there even if they don’t admit it.

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            Women are generally shorter than men, so I would expect couples with women shorter than men to be more common even if the pairing was random. There can also be a bias on the men’s side - it is not easy to be a very tall woman.

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        5’8" here and have have over 50 lovers. But yeah, height certainly helps!

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            It’s not too bad! But 5’10" is American male average, no telling how much strange I missed out on over a mere 2".

            Ever notice how tuned-in we humans are to even a 1" height difference? That’s all it takes to estimate someone as taller or shorter.

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      I mean, dude had tons of feelings. They just got channeled into fury, because he was a Furyan (and had a ton of trauma).

      Also, it’s easy to be a serial killer when you’re constantly surrounded by absolute assholes trying to kill you. The guy wasn’t out there sacrificing babies and families for “line must go up.”

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      if these people were actually vin diesel the world would be an infinitely better place, vin diesel is great

      the man had the opportunity to turn his cool edgy OC into several movies and games, took it, and made it good

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    Kind of related: The most sexist shit I’ve ever heard came from the mothers of my partners.

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    I still wear tight trousers, to be fair. I’m just not into the super baggy look, it’s not my thing 🤷‍♂️

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    See, I actually dislike this a lot, because while it should be poking fun at far right chuds, it just generalizes to straight men on the internet instead.

    Congrats to the author, the only thing this has done is fuel the gender divide and turned a few more young men to far right politics, and this is the sort of thing used as proof to make them feel under attack as straight men.

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      it does pretty clearly say “extremely online”, which is a common distinction these days for people who are disconnected from reality.