Just recently, I got banned from Lemmy.ml because they thought I was “trolling” using an LLM. Let me clarify to any Lemmy.ml mods reading this that I’m not using an LLM for my comments. I am a human being who actually has autism which is why I type like this.
Sometimes I post so much so fast that I get a “too many requests” error before I get to post the next comment - in these cases, that’s my cue to cool down for a bit, and then post my comments from my “queue” (I leave the comments unposted until I post them) after a certain period of time.
I just submitted a message like this on the Lemmy Matrix chat (through Cinny - pretty good software) as my ban appeal- I then got a reply saying “mods DON’T hang out here - just message them from the sidebar” which I will do after posting this.
I am a human being who actually has autism which is why I type like this.
I unfortunately think we are entering an age of systems that are extremely hostile to any kind of neurodivergence, mostly because of layers and layers of bullshit automated categorization schemes based on measurable superficial differences that capture nothing deeper or essential about people.
Phrenology by another name dressed up in techbro nonsense, it is dangerous as fuck.
Ultimately they might be hostile towards all humans, not just the neurodivergent ones… In my opinion, tech is getting more and more difficult unless you 99% conform to the masses. I mean try to book a ticket, get an appointment, do paperwork or whatever needs apps these days if you’re not using standard Google or Apple products. Or non-mainstream things like evade surveillance capitalism. All of that is annoying and requires me to jump through several hoops. Also business processes and everything gets more streamlined, automated… they do most things fairly well and efficiently. Just God beware you’re in the 0.5% when things go properly wrong, and it’s almost impossible to get ahold of a human with authorization to help with these rare, specific problems.
hostile towards all humans, not just the neurodivergent ones
The thing is neurodivergent people aren’t different from “neurotypical” people, they experienced heightened or muted versions of the exact same responses other people do. Anything that is hostile to neurodivergent people is hostile to everyone, and just being noticed by the neurodivergent people first
All of that is annoying and requires me to jump through several hoops.
Yes, that is true.
The important thing is that it is possible to use non surveillance capitalism software and services. The trade-off will always be that it is more work. This is because companies that harvest your information to sell can afford to spend a lot of money creating products that do everything for you.
They essentially say:
Don’t worry about buying media and managing it on your own hardware, it’s too hard to watch a youtube video and spend a few hours on something you enjoy… just install YouTube, Netflix or Spotify on your iPhone.
For the low, low price of your eternal technical dependency and loss of privacy we will manage your music and movie collection for you. Also, since there’s nothing you can do about it now that you’ve been lulled into a state of technical incompetence, there will be a
$5$8$9.99$12$18$19.99 subscription fee, HD sold separately.The hoops thing is pretty bad too
The problem is that it’s becoming less and less of a possibility, and more and more of a hassle, since everyone else, including our dear elected governments build shit with the expectation you engage in the big tech ecosystem.
I’ve been using e/OS, which is an Android fork maintained by a Danish university, so Google stops messing with my phone. I’ve made the switch after realising that when I wanted to restart the phone (was urgent at the time) the power button has been remapped to AI.
Yet, after moving to Denmark, I realized that the government ID service specifically disallows that fork and enforces using Google Android. The Danish government trusts Google over leading Danish universities.
Living without that ID thing on my phone would be possible but would require me to do tons of personal appointments with different companies, including banking, phone contracts, internet, public transit and so on.
Large tech companies manipulating/bribing governments to require the use of their software is pretty new and certainly a danger to people who want to own their own things and have privacy.
Right now, these kinds of laws are being passed with little to now public input or knowledge. These laws seem innocuous to the average person (who uses those kinds of devices anyway) but they give these platforms way more power over your daily life. It should be discussed more, but there are always distractions.
Right now, for me, the loss is mostly in using NFC payments. There’s no digital ID requirements that would force me onto a device in Google’s attestation chain. But, I am very aware of the issue that you’re talking about.
The stupid thing is that it’s not even a law. IDK if there was even bribery involved.
It’s just if you give the average state IT employee a switch that says “flip this to be more secure”, 9 times out of 10 they will flip it.
This is just enshittification on the enterprise level.
Any time you see people talking about Digital ID, just know that the end of that entire chain of thought is the requirement to have a secure hardware device to store the IDs (usually in the form of some kind of signed keypairs).
This could be a standalone device (like a Onekey) but the big push by Apple/Google is to just let them store/manage the keys in their infrastructure and on their phones.
Like every other aspect of our technical lives, they will try to win by creating an entire solution that requires no work or effort on the part of the users (the government in this case) so that the government can get digital ID compliant without actually doing any work or research that would be required to find the best method of doing it themselves.
This has been the playbook for a few decades. It’s why teenagers don’t know how to rip MP3s or use Peer to Peer networks… that’s hard to do, it’s much easier to avoid having to learn that by just installing Spotify who take care of all of the streaming infrastructure and music sourcing for you. Now that there is a technical dependence on Spotify they can enshittify, add tiering, add ads, remove music, etc and their users no longer have the ability to leave them.
I think we should give that a phrenology-type name - maybe neuroprofology, perhaps?
Oh and thank you for editing the comment (and also rephrasing it as well)!
Either that or “cognitive behavioral phrenology”
Hah, I like that one.
Something like that
It was because you spam the same vapid questions repeatedly.
They’re even doing it in this thread. The almost exact behavior they were saying they totally weren’t doing
Yup
https://kbin.earth/m/[email protected]/t/2284275/-/comment/10565743
And about 50/50 op being the cause whenever it’s someone complaining about ml
Edit: 90/10 maybe.
Please explain
It’s in the modlog.
Its .ml i wouldn’t worry about it too much, sure there are many decent people there, but there are some people there with shit takes
Is it because it’s a primarily Marxist-Leninist hub? - and this is coming from someone who supports socialism, and is looking to study a bit more on that
From what I’ve experienced is that anything that is critical of russia/china is against the narrative. I’m a socialist too, but because I am critical of russia/china, I get blocked and banned when I make comments. I am also critical of the USA, Canada, europe, etc but i still get called a shit lib lol.
I support the ideas of socialism, but I am critical of the more bureaucratic elements of forms such as Marxism-Leninism (a synthesis of Marx and Lenin’s ideas) and such. I am NOT against already-existing-socialist countries - that said, if the DPRK and China are any indication, a socialist country can have multiple parties, as long as they’re like-minded and they work together in one unified “vanguard coalition”.
I do think that these parties should compete like in bourgeois liberal systems though.
Well you’re in the right instance for thaf. This is your chance to check out anarchism 😅
It seems that the kind of discussion OP wants would be well aligned with the spirit of [email protected]. However, the community unfortunately seems to be inactive.
What about syndicalism, Marxism-De Leonism or council communism?
What about them?
I’m just wondering if you’re open to these forms of Marxism here in this Lemmy instance - from what I understand, Hexbear and Lemmy.ml are strictly Marxist-Leninist hub, and you’re an anarchist.
This instance is not that strict with our members, so long as you follow our rules.
Hexbear is a leftist unity sub, not strictly ML.
So it’s open to left-libertarians?
It’s because the mods and admins are tankies. Though AFAIK that’s a very common issue with marxist-leninists.
What about the Marxist-Leninists are aren’t really “tankies” and DOESN’T support how Stalin handled the USSR and his power as the General Secretary of the CPSU (too much bureaucracy and all)?
I was banned from [email protected] - a place I didn’t even know existed until I got banned from it.
But hey… tankies gonna tank.
https://hexbear.net/post/4334210/5846827
You made a comment there a year ago, and were subsequently site banned and therefore also banned from all comma you had interacted in.
Banned for calling out obvious copaganda? Huh?
I’m sure there’s a good reason they didn’t want to document the banning of masquenox. Totally a good reason. They just don’t want to.
Which part is not documented?
You personally said that you wish it was documented which comment got them banned in another instance and community. The mod didn’t do that.
They have actually been removed now. After I made my comments.
Fair
Saying “great, more copaganda” on a post about a TV show called “FBI: CIA” broke that rule? How? What a joke. They dodged a bullet.
No. The comment would have been removed if it did. The 5 comments removed 23 days ago with reason “rule 8” might have gotten them banned, and/or comments in the flippanarchy and anarchism posts are the reason (although, if that is the reason then I think offending comments should have been removed, so it is documented)
You’re right - surprisingly, I did. And I completely forgot how fond tankie is of pig.
Normally, I avoid tankie instances like the plague - you know, the way tankies avoid socialism!
No, you can’t call them out! That’s not left unity! They ban you but you can’t talk shit!
Now according to the person representing Hexbear, you are banned there for comments made off community and off instance.
But if you did that to them, Hexbear would flip out.
Gotta love how they ban you for no reason but you call out their users and they are innocent.
Edit: oh one comment they liked 1 year ago, wow they totally didn’t do that because you’re on db0 and whine about us.
Edit: notice how they didn’t find it weird how they banned you after nothing for a year. I’m sure that’s in good faith!
I think they were banned for comments on a dbzer0 comm yeah.
I find it deranged that, based on content submitted to communities on other instances, Hexbear targets users not even using the site.
Further, my best understanding is that comments in such communities are being removed on Hexbear, such that they remain on the original and other instances, only appearing as removed from Hexbear. I never knew such a capability was available to administrators of Lemmy instances, and its use strikes me as among the most misguided expressions of censorship.
Yep, they ban users for off site content. When it happens to them they claim fowl play, but when they do it it’s valid. If you moderate their users coming into your community? Oh you better believe they don’t like that either.
And it changed it’s argument from when I last read its comment. Surely that’s not weird.
The repeated revisions to the explanation would not have been necessary, except for a complete lack of transparency and fairness in the actions.
Lack of transparency is the greatest thing for such moderators.
I hope to find my own peace using an instance not federated with Hexbear.
And it changed it’s argument from when I last read its comment. Surely that’s not weird.
I presume you are talking about me? I have not changed any arguments in this post, was it something from longer ago I don’t remember right now?
On the one hand, I think if someone should be banned, offending comments should be removed so the modlog contains documentation. But on the other, it does lead to what you said, where it only appears removed on hexbear and not on other instances. And yeah, if you didn’t ban someone for things they did outside of the instance, that wouldn’t be a problem. I’ve also seen the opposite, where content removed by mods/admins a dbzer0 comm removed comments and it was then re-instated on hexbear (and only on hexbear)
When seeking out ever more users to ban becomes an end in itself, an objective of transparency no longer carries any value.
I’m not sure it was “seeking out.” masquenox was talking with hexbear users in the comments removed 23 days ago and probably in the two posts I linked.
Hexbear users chose to participate in a discussion, community, and site in which such comments are not unwelcome. The comments observed applicable rules. The actions undertaken are quite markedly unreasonable.
I did the thought-crime, comrade - I deserve the circular firing squad!
The wall is for those who post in communities outside of their influence. It is a thought crime to express anything Hexbear dislikes! That’s counter revolutionary!
What did you post there?
I’ve never been there.
If you saying their talking points of “read theory” as a question irritates them, that’s on them. PTB.
YDI for constantly trolling and I would have banned you sooner if it was up to me.
In its original usage, ‘Death to America’ means ‘end the power of America’. that is to say, ‘death to U.S. domination and government policy,’ not ‘kill Americans.’ It’s anti-imperial language, and if that continued under a ‘socialist’ president I would continue to say it.
Death to America.
I agree with the essence of your objections, but being misguided or misinformed is not in itself trolling, especially if the opportunity remains open for discussion and education.
At this point any charity I had is gone, they were already banned on a hexbear account for persistent zionisim, among other things
Is advocacy for a “two-state solution” necessarily in itself Zionism?
I would agree with that assessment, advocating for a two-state solution accepts the continued existence of the settler-colonial state. It treats the outcome of dispossession and genocide as a settled fact and asks Palestinians to negotiate within the framework created by that violence.
I think any realistic outcome would entail an acceptance that the settler population will remain living on stolen land. The objective should be full parity among all current occupants, which is inclusive of the “right of return”, Palestinians moving freely throughout the entire territory.
Tbh I kind of expect this orientation from slrpolice.net
I guess punk is when you approve of the government policing speech about a settler colony
I find your deflections and extrapolations both completely irrelevant and also deeply distorted.
Is me being banned on Hexbear and Lemmy.ml a sign that I should study a bit more on socialist/communist theory often?
No, it means they suck, which they do.
It’s a sign that people got tired of your trolling.
quoting a previous comment I made to you, re-iterating another comment made to you:
you just sort of say your thing and move on, even if you pose yourself as seeking conversation. This is exemplified by how you constantly say the same things unprompted over and over even when not a single person has responded positively to some of it, and there’s no apparent effort to change what you’re saying to even account for that, even if it’s just presenting an argument differently (though normally you don’t even really argue, you just declare).
So what should I do? Should I read theory a bit more?
No it means you should get more than a western world view and stop parroting talking points of US Imperialism.
And I should read theory a bit more?
Always
Please elaborate
The same question you have asked repeatedly, along with others, ever since your account appeared on Lemmy.
Is me being banned on Hexbear a sign that I should study a bit more on socialist/communist theory often?
Can you explain?
You replying to 80% of comments with more questions comes across as sealioning which comes across to many people as trolling.
Yeah that’s kind of bullshit, sorry. Seems like you just can’t handle someone with a different opinion. Maybe you shouldn’t be a mod if you’re this shaken up by modest disagreement.
Ok bluemaga
🤡
In other words, that statement means “screw America’s domination, let’s just chill”?
TIL that statement was actually metaphorical, given the real meaning is “screw America’s domination, let’s just chill”. I apologize if I took that particular statement literally.
Good riddance.
Why?
Sealioning is such a loaded reddit moderation concept to begin with. If someone’s questioning isn’t worth your time, then don’t answer them: problem solved. We certainly don’t need big daddy moderator trying to divine into the hearts & minds of questioners to decide whether they feign ignorance or are actually stupid.
That sh.itjust.works post took me to an error page
The Wikipedia entry is fine stop sealioning
