This isn’t all that much cus of the slot and more to do with that most vga was set up with mounting screws which sadly fell out of favor with hdmi
As someone who has skinned his knuckles a thousand times and more, reaching behind equipment to try and loosen a VGA screw, fuck that. I won’t even abide those DisplayPort locking cables with the button. It should just pull out.
Quite happy not having to screw it out and in.
DP is already quite hard to press some of the times in narrow areas.
The primary design goal of VGA was to display video. The primary design goal of HDMI was to prevent the display of video.
And to monetize the display of video. Licensing of that port’s supporting technology is holding everyone back.
Every time I notice I cannot use my full refresh rate over the HDMI on my 7900xtx in Linux because of licencing issues, I get rationally pissed off.
displayport is the modern successor to vga.
I wish DisplayPort would become the standard already. It’s superior in every way.
HDMI is the microUSB of the video world and I wish it would die already in lieu of DP and USB-C/ThunderBolt.
Why not USB C? It can carry a DP signal and (obviously) do all the USB stuff you’d ever need too.
It’s superior in every way.
Not every way, it doesn’t do audio. That’s really the only downside.
That’s incorrect. DP has had audio (up to 8 channels, 24bit@192kHz) since 1.0, nowadays it supports up to 32 channels and 1536kHz sample rate. Wikipedia has the official standards PDFs linked.
I stand corrected
HMDI can also do ethernet, which is very convenient. If you have two devices that support it.
And pass remote control inputs
and it also has a locking mechanism!
Fuck HDMI. All my homies use Displayport!
Those two screws on the VGA block are tough
I had a mobo one time that just gave up and the stand offs just screwed off with the cable. Shrug
Man, I miss those. Talk about enshittification lol
hold on, I have something for this
FOUND IT
We need to make screws on ports great again.
What’s kind of amusing is that all those old ports with the screw-in fasteners were moving around anywhere from 3v to 12v at about 45mA on the high-side. Meanwhile, USB-C can move 240W and has nothing to prevent disconnecting while sending enough power to run a power tool.
It’s even allowed to be randomly unplugged while delivering maximum power
Look at that thing hang, man it’s big.
That’s one of the things I like about Displayport. It locks in but is generally not too hard to remove (depending on your monitor/PC clearance).
The other is that it doesn’t involve paying ransom to the HDMI consortium…
The port is great.
Device manufacturers putting said port deep in the bowels of Erebus where no mortal man could hope to actuate the locking mechanism is less great.
So what the fuck is wrong with mine? If I sneeze I have to take it out and Nintendo it
You’re sneezing pretty hard out there buck-o
i am but also the cable sucked lemon balls. i got old man sneezeosis
Probably a low quality cable
Mine’s been pretty stable but I also don’t screw with my cables much once everything is in place
Oh, you want to plug your own computer into your own TV using a cable you own?
Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask (and pay)?
I have a TV with every input including VGA. It is for gaming only at this point.
The mighty DisplayPort: “what is this peasant behaviour I’m too royal(ty-free) to understand?”
How do I add a DP port to both my TV and my laptop?
If your laptop has USB-C it most likely already has DP out.
Your TV? message the manufacturer. tell your friends to message the manufacturer. Demand DisplayPort on TVs. Be the change you want to see in the world.
If your laptop has USB-C it most likely already has DP out.
For some reason I always miss this. I checked in software and at least arandr says I have 4 DP Outs. Presumably 2 per USB-C port? I don’t know how this actually works.
I think past thunderbolt 4 you get 2 displays daisy chained off of one port. I have a thunderbolt 5 port and I run 2 4k monitors off of it
Thanks! I’m gonna try and find a USB-to-DP cat’o’tails I can buy for cheap to see what happens.
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Attach a DP to component video adapter to the TV.
While DP ports can output HDMI signal, HDMI ports can’t receive DP signal.
Meaning you would buy an adapter that is active, which means it needs to pay HDMI royalties.
Basically, you’d be paying double to the HDMI Forum, to get around their shittiness.
That’s kinda… Counterproductive. Don’t you think?
That’s why I said to use a component video adapter. It’s an analog signal that has nothing to do with HDMI.
Oh shoot. Somehow I read that as a video adapter component 🤦♂️
American tipping culture. Just do your job for a proper wage instead.
Explain?
The HDMI consortium are shitheads who demand royalties, and all Linux PCs are gimped to not have modern HDMI features because of it.
and all Linux PCs are gimped to not have modern HDMI features because of it.
Isn’t the issue with open sourcing their code, and so for example Nvidia closed source drivers support everything?
It’s the year of the linux desktop!
(Unless you enjoy high fidelity gaming)
This play port is superior and is what is used on most high-end GPUs.
bone apple tea
xD now I can’t fix it
Yeah, but unfortunately most TVs don’t support DisplayPort. Although that reminds me someone made patches to the Linux kernel to enable 4k@120 Hz through HDMI without color degradation on AMD GPUs. I haven’t heard much about them since they were brought up in media, but if I recall correctly CachyOS included them in their kernel.
Are there many people that care about “high fidelity gaming” and HDMI features Linux can’t support - AND trying to play on a standard TV?
Are you sitting 1 foot from the 56’ screen? No? Then display port is more than fine.
Are you implying that gaming on a 120 Hz 4k OLED TV is somehow bad?
A big reason why Linux is popping off as much as it is lately, is because of HTPCs, so yes
Nah, it is all about safety.
If you triple over a stretched HDMI cable it will safely disconnect.
If you triple over a stretched VGA cable… Well, may God save you and your monitor.
skill issue
You’re right, having problems with the HDMI staying in IS a skill issue.
MY BODY IS A MACHINE THAT TURNS ELECTRICAL SIGNALS INTO COLORED PIXELS. YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER ME, MORTAL. DON’T TREAD ON ME.
If you triple over a stretched HDMI cable it will safely disconnect.
If you triple over a stretched VGA cable… Well, may God save you and your monitor.
Like 3 plugs in the same port? How do you even accomplish that?
Hah this guy doesn’t know how to use the three plugs
Well you see when 3 men love a woman very much…
I’m listening. This sounds like a story my grammy used to tell me.
usually I dont have any cables lying around to trip over too.
To be fair, VGA had 2 big ass screws on each side to hold the connection in. If you tightened them all the way down, the VGA connector was essentially part of the fucking machine at that point.
I remember wondering as a kid why those plugs needed to be screwed in like that. It seemed ridiculously overengineered.
No hotplugging back then. If you pulled out the plug, gotta reboot. Idk if anything worse could happen, like damage to the hardware.
The pixels come out otherwise.
It was! Back in the day, half the time the screws were tighter in the plug which caused the sockets to come out of the motherboard rather than unscrewing in many times during my desktop days. I fucking hated them!
Could at least straighten a bent pin, though…
Yup. When cheap PC clones came around, everyone had that one Com, LPT, or VGA port with the missing screw terminal. Fortunately you need zero of those for the port to actually work.
I don’t know why I kept tightening them. I never found myself in a situation where the connector was falling out if they were left unscrewed.
You …monster!
Fun fact: The connector is called a DE-15, VGA is just the protocol using it in this application.
Not anymore it isn’t
As someone who worked IT help desk in the mid/late aughts: fuck VGA and DVI. Let them stay dead. If I had a nickel for every time I snagged one in a desk’s rat’s nest on every single USB or power cable while trying to route cables, I could build me a top of the line gaming rig with 2026 prices.
The RJ plugs are my least favourite. Still snags but the plastic bit that snags is feeble enough to break off easily, and then the plug doesn’t have anything holding it in to the port. And those covers usually make it harder to fit it through holes intended for ethernet cables as well as make it harder to unclip it from the port.
Like the Cisco switch that needed to be recalled due to the placement of it’s reset button.There’s really no excuse for that one
What about the slightly larger bonuses that quarter for the executives who had the outside-the-box and paradigm-shifting bright idea to eliminate the V&V department? HUH?
There’s probably a dusty old Ferrari buried in some retired rich guy’s 7th garage, and all the world had to suffer for it was a few fucked up networks here and there and losing the respect of IT people all over the place.
Which model did this?
For that reason VGAs could make really good grappling hooks. 😂
Who screwed in vga carefully every time? Without the screws vga was worse.
You can get HDMI with a lock tab . I hate that too. Nothing worse than trying to reach behind a wall mount to squeeze the lock tab.
I did. Because something in me just won’t let something not be secured properly if a mechanism for it exists.
Sometimes you want it to disconnect instead of pull everything down with it if something gets caught on a wire.
Like a cat
I hear you, I just can’t do it. Though all the slack is zip-tied away, albeit messily.
Oh no. Run those cables sloppy free like a 90s cyberpunk rat’s nest.
Exactly how god intended
Extra points for the hair dust bunnies on top of the power strip
The curse of the furry babies, cat hair everywhere lmao
This is the logic of most ports. It’s more expensive to replace the thing the cable is being plugged into than the cable. So you want the cable to fail from force first and leave the hardware undamaged.
Agreed. What mad man didn’t at least think “I’ll screw them in just a bit so it doesn’t fall out” and then just continue screwing it in all the way because of course you might as well finish.
Only time I didn’t screw it in was when I was using a monitor temporarily or something. Something I knew I’d just unplug later that day.
Did people really just plug in VGA to their computer and then leave in unscrewed for months at a time? That shit would fall out if I bumped into my desk too hard.
I don’t think hanging a CPU with a cable like that is a good thing.
…but where am I supposed to find another cart in this 50 million dollar hospital?
How else is data pressure supposed to flow?
HDMI also has a leaky hack
https://hackaday.com/2023/03/07/pulling-data-from-hdmi-rf-leakage/
I mean… you have been able to do things like that for a long time. You used to be able to use cable toners to listen to conversations on analog phone lines for instance.
Hell, toner and probe is still a common diagnostic tool for telecom engineers.
