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Why does a retail store need a license plate reader?
I think I saw somewhere that they put plates of repeat shoplifters in there for notification when they roll up. Surveillance state? Surveillance corporate states.
Fair enough but then they sell it too… Everything is going to be this way going forward. People need to start taking privacy more seriously.
Most of them will walk into these retial locations with wifi and BT on
Whoever came up with selling it (if it wasn’t sold to them this way) probably got a huge promotion.
Correct that’s called business development and that’s who makes the most money within any corporate generally
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I saw the writing on the wall and just ordered a pair of infrared blocking prescription glasses, that should at least fuck up the facial recognition for a hot minute before it gets too good for even that.
I sort of need to keep my BT on for my glucose monitor and insulin pump 😔
that’s a valid reason but vast majority keeps BT on just because it is on by default
Tracking MAC addresses at scale is very hard. It is easier to do faces.
Especially since cell phones randomize macs for privacy. Been doing that for years.
I don’t think watches, earbuds and other Bluetooth devices do. Also typically the MAC is per SSID/device
The reason they are hard to track is that you would need to track thousands of devices and then somehow correlate all of it. They are really only useful if you are trying to target someone but even at that there are easier ways.
Hey, you may have not heard of it, but there’s this thing called computers that do this job without breaking a sweat, this engineering problem has already solved, holy cow you underestimate people‘s desire to do horrible stuff.
Lowe’s does exactly that. My store even have nicknames for repeat offenders.
People are pretty obvious
Theft. A long time ago I worked asset protection at Walmart. A lot of times people would get caught only after they got away with it several times. We would find out from a greeter that someone ran out with something. We would check the video, get screenshot, send out alerts to the other Walmarts… The camera footage is pretty important for catching those repeat offenders. Eventually they would finally be recognized while in the store instead of after the fact because of the alerts. I could see AI being an extremely value resource from that perspective while also being extremely dystopic from every other perspective. Such as Madison Square Garden using it to deny entry to people the AI flagged because they’re a lawyer in a case against the owner.
The problem is that they need to steal a ton before doing any kind of prosecution or arrest.
We need small consequences for small cases of shop lifting.
shoplifting from corporations doesn’t cause real harm. don’t swallow the boot
It objectively does though
These a publicly traded companies. You are welcome to pull up the financial reports.
wahhhhhhhh shareholders don’t get their money that they didn’t earn through productive work, how tragic. unless it hurts the employees whose labor was used to make the product, no real harm is being done
We need to mind our own fucking business is what we need to do.
capitalism.
Probably because they somehow correlate your purchases with your plate and then use that to track your shopping habits.
Once your on private property, like their parking lot, is it legal to hide your plates? I’m thinking yes. And I’m thinking some quick 3d prints and motors could make this work.
In many states such devices are illegal, so if you get caught with it on the road that’s probably a hefty ticket and maybe an arrest because they will assume it was meant for use in a crime.
The crime of protecting your privacy.
Technically in public there is no presumption of privacy. What we need to do is end the third party loophole that allows the government to buy data on citizens without a warrant. And some additional legislation preventing companies from tracking anyone using any data without their permission.
I believe you are right
Because theft exists
When i saw there was no way to get into the lowes parking lot near me without passing one, i stopped going to lowes.
Here’s the link.
Yep, they have cameras at the 2 parking lot entrances closest to my local home depot. Looks like I’ll be going in from the far side. Or maybe somewhere else entirely.
If you want to help directly fund fascism, Home Despot is the place to shop.
A Proper example please of direct action.
If this website is accurate then it is impossible for me to enter my nearest city from any roadway. Great…
Yep! I’ve learned some common backroad bypasses for this reason. Modern day underground railroad type shit.
That’s fine, just shop at the competitor that doesn’t do that.
…oh wait.
spoiler
Shut up Menards people, your store isn’t in most of the country. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s doing it too.
Menards is in my area and it’s fucking terrible. Their “20% off” is a mail in rebate for store credit, only and it’s a perpetual “sale”. It never actually has an end date like their ads claim. From shopping there just about every menards exclusive brand item ive purchased was over priced and broken in less than a year. I also know a handful of people that went from die hard menards fans to “never shopping there again” over the last few years because their prices on nearly everything have gotten ridiculous compared to literally any other store, online or brick. Their website is a pain to navigate, too and tries really hard to make you think the 20% off price is the final price on items.
Looks like I’ll be shopping exclusively at ACE
It is just a matter if time until they do it too. (Assuming they aren’t already)
So, the chance that this information is being shared with those fascists at ICE is what? 100%?
Honestly I dont think this is going to be too effective without a corresponding crackdown on fake license plates. Shoplifting from home improvement stores is a big problem but the people I’ve seen walking out with thousands of dollars of tools in broad daylight just had an obviously fake paper tag.
If the ai has facial recognition software, they can just wait til the next time that person comes in. AI flags the person, flag is picked up by somebody in Bangladesh who confirms it is the same person, cops are called and nab the guy as he is walking out of the store. Video evidence is then provided to the prosecution.
True, I didn’t think of that.
Dickheads. Protect your own asses from theft, vandals… but, do not bend the knee!
I hope my local “Curry Hardware” keeps their shit tight.
Perhaps these stores should HIRE STAFF THAT ACTUALLY GIVES A SHIT. And some security.
Cameras are cheaper than people.
They did this here in the UK with CCTV cameras. Put the fucking things up everywhere, while cutting police funding. Result - the muggers, dealers, etc know where the blind spots are or wear masks. And if something happens and you need to call the police you are screwed for anything less than murder. And we are under constant surveillance.
Cameras are a reactive tool, not a proactive tool. That’s the problem.
We need laws protecting privacy
Honestly I think in person stores are on the way out. The amount of shoplifting is making no longer cost effective.
If you have an ebike, is it legal to put a fake license plate to add noise to the readers?
No, probably not legal.
What about a sign on your shirt?
More likely to be legal.
In most places this is illegal and could get you charged with impersonating a vehicle registration - better to use IR reflective sprays or covers that mess with the cameras without breaking laws about false registration.
Okay, so bye bye home depot
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