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      That actually took a bit longer than I expected. Almost 2 hours for them to start lying.

      Edit: the timestamps in the screenshot are rounded. It took almost 1:30:00 for them to make the accusations.

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    I don’t understand NPR here. I listen to WNYC, it may be different but I don’t think this meme is correct about them. Prove me wrong, please.

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      Generally I think they try to painfully aim to be neutral, but with the Kirk shooter they seemed to indulge the jump to paint him as leftist and let the coverage emphasize the trans romantic partner angle and taking the bullet messages at face value without even mentioning the Groyper angle.

      I think they mean well, but then I see it be all for naught. They had a right winger on and let him say as he like about how folks on the right have suffered and how it’s all the left’s fault, that all the violence has been leftists and they let him go on like this for a bit. Then they tried to at least add the context that not long ago multiple democrat politicians were killed and the right wing killer had a hit list to kill more of them, and the right winger just exploded about how unfair they were being and how they shouldn’t exist as a news organization for daring to politicize the tragedy of Kirk’s death.

      Have also heard them trying to throw a life preserver to right wing interviewees to offer them a more legitimate sounding point than the craziness they were saying. Though more often than not the person rejects the potentially reasonable sounding rationale and looks all the more stupid for doubling down on their ridiculous rationale, so it still sometimes works.

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        I think they mean well

        I don’t think they mean well. I think they’re desperate for funding and they’re careful not to piss off any of their corporate sponsors. PBS News Hour is the same way, trying carefully not to piss off their corporate sponsors while also providing acceptable content to their audience of old, white liberals.

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      NPR often times reports what is being reported, so if the rest of the media is saying it then NPR will say that’s what’s being said.

      Sometimes it has the effect of adding their voice to the pile.

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      When it’s obviously a right winger, best they can do is “both sides” the narrative

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      Blue state markets are very different. Not to mention you have a Pacifica affiliate there too. Which will help skew things further towards reality.

      Your average Midwesterner hearing a pacifica broadcast would think it came from an alternate reality and not their own.

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      The so-called "left-leaning“ (in reality Centrist at the best of times and sometimes quite far right) media have a frequent tendency to report on ridiculous claims by the fascists without any indication that it’s utter nonsense or even that there’s no evidence for it.

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        Can I get a citation for NPR doing this? That would be surprising

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          Editorial “backstops” courtesy of anonymous donors.

          https://www.podcastnewsdaily.com/news/report-npr-staffers-upset-over-new-editorial-backstop-plans/article_fb8101e2-146c-11ef-ac87-1305981c9fbf.html

          https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/business/npr-editing-backstop.html

          I’ve been listening to NPR for years and since 2024 they started including right wing rhetoric in their reporting. It started getting really obvious the closer we got to the last election.

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            I listen to NPR as well, have for years, donate to my local station, and I’ve only ever heard them discuss right-wing talking points as exactly that: clearly labeled right-wing talking points that are relevant to informing listeners about the current state of the national discourse.

            While anonymous donors of any kind rub me the wrong way, the article you linked doesn’t provide evidence of the things I was asking for citations about.

            Rather it specifically talks about a) concerns about the rapidity of journalism within NPR when having to go through more editor review and b) accusations of left-leaning bias from a former employee

            I appreciate your concerns but the links you provided don’t back up the claims I was responding to, and while they are concerning for a few reasons, none of those reasons are “becoming more right wing” or “repeating right wing talking points as fact or opinion”.

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              I regularly listen to a lot of their programming, especially in the morning. In lieu of articles all I have is what I personally heard on Morning Edition, All Things Considered, and during their special coverage pre and post election.

              Morning Edition had a disproportionate amount of coverage for the “Undecided” and “Abandon Harris” movements, at least in my region. They interviewed someone billed as (paraphrased) “former Trump appointee, who testified against him, and is now going to work for him again.”

              Then, immediately after the election (like 10pm that night), they interviewed a legal representative for The Heritage Foundation, who spouted nothing but lies about Trump’s non-involvement with Project 2025. There was no fact checking for this interview.

              Earlier this year, they interviewed Sean Duffy who repeatedly said that there was no issue with FAA operations re: EWR communications lapses, when weeks later it was revealed that he was making sure his family avoided routing through that airport.

              I know this anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean much but something is seriously off at NPR within the last couple years. It’s definitely not the same quality of reporting that it was before.

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              Mere accusations of being left-leaning and mysterious anonymous money were enough to insert an entire editorial board to filter the news.

              They don’t report things that should be important if they are offensive to right-wing politics.

              They don’t report on wage theft. They don’t report on health care abuses. They don’t report on lies or incompetence in the Trump administration.

              They lick boots and rationalize genocide. They’ve always been a little right leaning in that reporting reality as it is is extremely hostile to right-wing politics so they have to protect people from the truth.

              NPR has not been left-wing or even vaguely left of center for a while. They are rapidly homophobic or racist, but they are islamophobic and they will indulge whatever is the right-wing rumor or paranoia of the day.

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                Having links to back up your claims would go a long way to convincing people. Otherwise your words are just you yelling at clouds and hoping somebody will listen.

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            Yeah idk why you’re upvoted, unless I’m missing something. The articles you linked(could only read the first as the 2nd is behind a paywall) only talk about how much slower NPRs coverage may become due to the backstops. Nothing implies that they have become unreliable news.

            I’m unconvinced that NPR is unreliable based on your info. I listen to their planet money, the 1A, and the indicator broadcasts. The 1A especially has recently been openly and bluntly criticizing the fascists movements of Trump/Republicans. The indicator and planet money are more economics focused (rather than politically focused than 1A ) but even they will criticize Republican actions if it doesn’t align with economic theories.

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              I have no issues with 1A, that program has always been very progressive and fair. My main issue is with Morning Edition, and some segments they did on All Things Considered over the past couple years.

              It just seems that it’s not in the best interest of NPR to have anonymous donors gumming up the gears for their reporting.

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    What is up with military vets going on wild killing sprees this past week?

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        Ding ding ding. On the nose. You win a gun.

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        To some degree yes. About half the males in my high school graduating class went to Iraq and Afghanistan, most saw combat, and I don’t think any of them would go on a killing spree like the past two. I work along side many veterans, including ex special forces, and I don’t believe they would go on a killing spree.

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          There are very different war veteran experiences out there and very different ways of coping with them.

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            I’m not denying that. And I also admit that veterans are taking their lives way too quickly. One guy I know, marine sniper, fought in Fallujah during the worst of, he suffers a lot. Can’t really keep a job for more than a year. He’s had nearly all of the guys in his squad that came back alive commit suicide over the last 15 years. It’s beyond tragic what some of these guys are going through.

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              this is an excellent thing to bookmark. Veteran suicides far outpace the national average when controlling for population. 22 is a number all veterans are aware of, meaning 22 veterans a day die by suicide.

              In the times we’re living in, no support, no healtcare, no help, homeless veterans… its easy to see how the situation becomes hopeless.
              So you have 22 people a day, trained for violence, giving up, becoming pessmisitic, nihilistic… It’s honestly a wonder we haven’t seen more cases exactly like this…

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          You dont “think?” So were just hoping and praying they wont? Yikes

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        Technically not trained to kill but to fight and for any fight that isn’t decentralized then wounding is actually more useful since dead people stop using resources whereas wounded soldiers do not.

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      Could be violations to their constitutional oaths by their erstwhile leaders spurring them on

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      I would like to guess. Is many who are still working for the gov were forced to go in from their PTSD free remote jobs, now forced in office.

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      Couldn’t the priest just throw a holy hand grenade to the demonic veteran and then use a sawed off shotgun like doom guy to finish it off?

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      Sounds like he was almost named “Jacknobobyeahthatsbetter”’

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    American conservatism is a violent, racist, fascist movement.

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    This radical leftist would love to do some duck hunting. I’m pretty good at clays and getting a meal at the end would be even better

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      I like shooting clays but I must admit I’m too much of a hippie to shoot a wild duck. I think I’d be sad for months. Unless it was survival of course

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      Unfortunately long-pig isn’t particularly tasty or filling, from what I understand.

      Maybe make jerky…

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        Met a guy who owned a building I worked at. Says no one in the village knew they had been eating human sausages until the ss removed the butcher and his wife.

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        I’ve heard the opposite. It has the same meat density as pork (even forms rinds when burned in a fire) and apparently tastes like slightly sweeter pork, hence the name.

        Not that I’m advocating cannibalism, mind you, just setting the record straight 😁

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    Finally, in news from the US, a crazy person attacked a local crazy cult. And now, the weather…

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        Atheism is a religion whose members must believe it’s not a religion so they can feel like it’s acceptable for them to be bigoted towards other religions. And that’s the way it is, good night and good luck!

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          Atheism is not a religion because there’s no organization or membership. Atheism is only a theology. If they went to atheist church, it would be a religion.

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          Only in the same way you don’t believe the Easter Bunny is real (I hope?)

          Religion is all about abuse and control. Something that should be discarded and seen as repugnant, like slavery.

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    Worked for Feds that’s all you need to know bet he went to fort Bragg as well

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      Military isn’t the feds. Military also isn’t not the feds, but it is more not the feds than it is not not the feds. Either way military is definitely not equal to feds, we just worked for them, mostly, kinda.

      Signed a USN Captain Vet.

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        The military is part of the Department of Defense/War. That’s a federal executive department. I understand what you’re getting at, but it seems weird to say it’s only kinda the Feds.

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      That was my theory. Not Catholic, but because the kid that supposedly helped Kirk complete his desire.