• testfactor
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    27 days ago

    This just feels like another version of the “people live in cities” phenomenon.

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      27 days ago

      no, it’s the “americans fat/have no public transport” phenomenon.

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      26 days ago

      I agree, it’s certainly correlated with population density and, therefore, destination density. But that also likely means the car-buying population has significant overlap with people who make most of the trips, so it has significance in the car market

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        26 days ago

        Perhaps, though people in cities are far far less likely to own a car. So it might not be all that relevant. Hard to say without more data.

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    27 days ago

    Why should I know that? Seems like a meaningless stat in a country this diverse.

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      27 days ago

      There are a couple related stats in the article, and a graph.

      It would be nice to put it in the context of transit or EVs or personal mobility or walkability, or king sized vehicles

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        27 days ago

        Or whether you are 10 million living in a city or 4 thousand living in a rural town.

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    A “trip” by their definition only includes stays for longer than 10 minutes, so quick errands, delivers, etc are not counted regardless of distance. This probably removes a significant portion of what most people would consider as a “trip”.

    Obviously some definition is required, because taking a walk, going for a run, walking the dog, etc probably shouldn’t count. But grabbing something from the corner store, picking up takeout, and dropping something off at a friend’s should count, but don’t under the current rules.

    I’d say a trip is any journey away from the current place of occupancy (home, work, another residence) to a different destination in order to at least attempt a specific task or activity at the destination.

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      27 days ago

      If I go three miles I’m just going down the road for a bit. If I’m going on a trip I’m going away for the entire day or more. It’s all about perspective and they wear theirs in their sleeve.

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    27 days ago

    48% were three miles or greater.

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      26 days ago

      Yes, but not by much. The graph in the link shows further breakdowns. 93% were under 25 miles.

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    For those not clicking the link, there’s a graph with further breakdowns. Here’s the key takeaway, to me:

    28% could have been done without gasoline (under 1 mile)

    52% could have been done without significantly affecting travel time by bicycle/e-bike (3 miles)

    93% could have been done by a worn-out first-Gen Nissan Leaf EV with a charged but deteriorated battery (25 miles)

    I’d like to see a measure of how miles fall into each category as well. I think a ratio could be extrapolated by multiplying percentage of each category by an average (weighted?) distance per group to figure out, say, how many miles were spent on a 1-3 mile trip in a 1,000 mile duration.

    I did a 1.3 mile commute for a couple years by childhood bicycle most days, car in extreme weather. The bike afforded me a handful of pedestrian shortcuts* and “illegal” maneuvers** that made up for the speed difference. The car was 4 minutes because of stops signs and cross traffic. The bike was 7 minutes. My back hurt a lot less than during the prior 60 mile commute too, so that was cool.

    • park path, anri-traffic dead end with sidewalk passage

    **crossing the county road when there was a break in traffic rather than sitting at the exact intersection, yielding at stops signs instead of stopping as allowed here

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    26 days ago

    My spouse and I consolidate our trips so we don’t do this. But some of our neighbors seem to leave and return in their vehicles almost hourly. We’ve noticed it for years.